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| Quote Willa="Willa"My only doubt is Atkins replacing Yeamo. He was on great form for Warrington
is he injured or just not picked?'"
Thought he asked not to be considered for personal reasons?
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| Great news for Tom and Kirk, hope they go well.
Personally I would have had Widdop and Lomax at 6/7.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Great news for Tom and Kirk, hope they go well.
Personally I would have had Widdop and Lomax at 6/7.'"
Lomax pulled out injured
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| Quote hullandbroncos="hullandbroncos"Lomax pulled out injured'"
Hmm I wonder why? He was fine at first then probably realised he would be behind Rangi and thought, no thanks.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Hmm I wonder why? He was fine at first then probably realised he would be behind Rangi and thought, no thanks.'"
What a load os 54it. You get shown up for wanting to include a player whos injured (and its been mentioned in this thread already) so you then make out Lomax is pretending hes injured just because Chase is in the squad. 
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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"What a load os 54it. You get shown up for wanting to include a player whos injured (and its been mentioned in this thread already) so you then make out Lomax is pretending hes injured just because Chase is in the squad.
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You can't say that 
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The England team to face France at Avignon on Friday October 21, kick off 8.45pm (local time) is as follows (professional club and community club in brackets):
1 Sam Tomkins (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Pats)
2 Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)
3 Jack Reed (Brisbane Broncos, South Logan Magpies)
4 Kirk Yeaman (Hull FC, Myton Warriors)
5 Tom Briscoe (Hull FC, Featherstone Lions)
6 Kevin Sinfield (Leeds Rhinos, Waterhead)
7 Rangi Chase (Castleford Tigers, Dannevirke Tigers)
8 Jamie Peacock © (Leeds Rhinos, Stanningley)
9 James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook)
10 James Graham (St Helens, Blackbrook)
11 Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers, Lock Lane)
12 Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves, Normanton)
13 Chris Heighington (Wests Tigers, Umina Bunnies)
14 Gareth Widdop (Melbourne Storm, King Cross)
15 Adrian Morley (Warrington Wolves, Eccles)
16 Jamie Jones-Buchanan (Leeds Rhinos, Stanningley)
17 Jon Wilkin (St Helens, East Hull)
www.superleague.co.uk/article/4n ... ance/23815?
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The England team to face France at Avignon on Friday October 21, kick off 8.45pm (local time) is as follows (professional club and community club in brackets):
1 Sam Tomkins (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Pats)
2 Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)
3 Jack Reed (Brisbane Broncos, South Logan Magpies)
4 Kirk Yeaman (Hull FC, Myton Warriors)
5 Tom Briscoe (Hull FC, Featherstone Lions)
6 Kevin Sinfield (Leeds Rhinos, Waterhead)
7 Rangi Chase (Castleford Tigers, Dannevirke Tigers)
8 Jamie Peacock © (Leeds Rhinos, Stanningley)
9 James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook)
10 James Graham (St Helens, Blackbrook)
11 Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers, Lock Lane)
12 Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves, Normanton)
13 Chris Heighington (Wests Tigers, Umina Bunnies)
14 Gareth Widdop (Melbourne Storm, King Cross)
15 Adrian Morley (Warrington Wolves, Eccles)
16 Jamie Jones-Buchanan (Leeds Rhinos, Stanningley)
17 Jon Wilkin (St Helens, East Hull)
www.superleague.co.uk/article/4n ... ance/23815?
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| Quote Raggytash="Raggytash"Pretty sad we can't produce an international standard scrum half in this country.'"
The saddest thing about it all is that Mcnamara feels we don't have a single English standoff so we go back to the dark old days of playing a backrow forward there ala Farrell, Sculthorpe ect.
Sinfield is a decent player but he aint an international standoff and doesnt have the speed off the mark for such a position, would rather see Chase there.
Wellham and Yeoman should be centres based on form.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Hmm I wonder why? He was fine at first then probably realised he would be behind Rangi and thought, no thanks.'"
He tore his ankle ligaments during the Grand Final yet played on after the Shenton injury....sure he would have been considered otherwise.
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| Quote Gi4nts="Gi4nts"The saddest thing about it all is that Mcnamara feels we don't have a single English standoff so we go back to the dark old days of playing a backrow forward there ala Farrell, Sculthorpe ect.
Sinfield is a decent player but he aint an international standoff and doesnt have the speed off the mark for such a position, would rather see Chase there.
Wellham and Yeoman should be centres based on form.'"
I think Widdop, Chase and Lomax are all exciting stand off's and will be great options there for years to come. I think the absence of an organisational scrum half is scary. Why aren't we producing them? Is it over emphasis on athleticism and the fact that most players are the shape of 2nd rowers now? Or is it tactical reasons? I know that we've killed off the ball playing loose forwards because the dour tactic of playing a battering ram at 13.
I think the only times we've beat Australia in the past, it's because we've had more exciting ball players. This will never happen again if we keep trying to unsuccessfully copy the NRL. I think we need to go back to specialized positions, playing their traditional roles.
I'd also like to ban the legal obstruction/dummy runner play that now accounts for the majority of tries scored in games. It's boring to watch. I'd also like to re-introduce playing the ball with your foot.
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| That bench is very weird.
Don't get the idea of Widdop on the bench unless Sinfield will be moving to 9 at some point at Widdop goes to 6.
Wilkin shouldn't be anywhere near the 17 and should be replaced with a prop.
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