The problem with Horne is that he's pretty much our only support player. When he does create anything there's no-one in support as was evident on a few occasions last night. Our support play is virtually non existent, has been for years. It's not just an Agar issue, I remember asking Peter Sharp about this at a fans forum together with our outside back shortage and we know how long that took to be addressed and how it turned out!

nail on head there, somehow Horne has become one of the scapegoats this season.

Agreed, particularly disappointing as the club had hyped up our supposedly monstrous pack, which has never played to it's postential

Postential? A good made up word that describes our pack of this season , potency that [ihas been[/i?


It annoys me as well when Sky go on about our big nasty pack??????

Interesting that It may annoy you that sky go on about hulls big nasty pack.Correct me if iam wrong wasn't the league going to be beat up by the tongan mafia,as christened by your fans.??

Manu (our Player of the Year) has had an outstanding season and should have made the Dream Team.

Moa has had a good season too.

Only Lauaki is the weak link.

Of course, after watching the likes of Jason Netherton every week, you should know all about great forward play.

People use silly names at times, Andreas Bauer was a 'rough diamond' according to Morgs!

When we played decent packs without Fitz our balance was all wrong. We could afford to have O'Meley and Moa starting when we had Fitz available but without him for the last 20 mins of the first half a pack containing Radford,Dowes, Lauaki and Washbrook offered nothing.

Totally agree Hollywood, even a full compliment of international centres and halves will look distinctly average behind a toothless pack, which I honestly think is what we have had this year. It only takes 3 new names and the whole look and feel is different. Easier said than done I know, but if we can believe Adams November promise ?

But without doubt we need more grunt and aggression. Even if we can't dominate every forward battle against the present top 6 we at least need to be going in against them toe to toe, with the same firepower.

Adam please buy us 2 big bruising battering rams. and lets get a pack thats really feared, then we can build a real team.

I still think Sunday showed that the pack isn't our main problem, we got into as many positions as Leeds to score, but we couldn't convert them.

Halfbacks is the main issue, hopefully this will be addressed with the 2 halfback signings needed.

Our attacking options and last play kicking against the big sides this year has been pathetic.