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Been confirmed that it will stay with 14 teams on Sky Sports News, personally I think that promotion/relegation will not come back until we are able to have the Championship as a full time division (which will probably never happen). If we could have 2 full time division the gap in quality should lessen allowing promoted teams a better chance of surviving in the SL.
Whilst I think that having no P/L is a bit harsh on teams like Fev who will probably win the league again but havent got a chance of meeting the criteria yet, it does help with the youth development in some teams, if you look at Cas there youth development has been good but if P/L was still in place would they have stayed with these players when they went on their losing streak or would they have opted for signing old, experienced players to help them out of their slump?

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Quote: rover49 "Not me, you deserved to go down and start again instead of being bailed out, but I don't think the decision was taken by an independent tribunal who are assessing written bids and business cases (except for Quins and Crusaders that is)'"



I believe that any club who made promises like ground improvements last time and have failed to deliver should be booted out

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and can I just ask this, IF Barrow had a SL team (or Cumbria in general) who the hell is going to decide they want to live on the side of a hill surrounded by Sheep, or worse, in Carlisle, Workington, Whitehaven or Barrow?

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Quote: Standee "there is no appetite for a Cumbrian club, and P&R is not a sustainable model, as has been proven.'"



Whilst I agree that a ten team league may be two little and have knock on effects with money, I certainly would not go as far as to saying P & R is not a sustainable model. It can be done over time IMO.

I think getting P & R back in the future is crucial for the sport, the headlines it creates and extra publicity. Plus I know when I travel the country and talk to people about RL they often say they get confused by the no P & R and how teams move up and down from divisions. I know in other countries all over the world this happens but in England in any sport they is always P & R so we definitely need to look at getting it back, if only to interest new people. I will agree though that at the moment it can not be achieved without two full time leagues.

The problem we have though I reckon is the RFL is that obsessed with expanding and getting the international game working that I doubt the above will ever happen.

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Quote: Standee "and can I just ask this, IF Barrow had a SL team (or Cumbria in general) who the hell is going to decide they want to live on the side of a hill surrounded by Sheep, or worse, in Carlisle, Workington, Whitehaven or Barrow?'"


I agree with you, but whilst Barrow is a very strange place (we have a factory there) there are fantastic places to live within 5 miles. (I admit you would be surrounded by sheep though - Craven park?)

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Quote: Standee "and can I just ask this, IF Barrow had a SL team (or Cumbria in general) who the hell is going to decide they want to live on the side of a hill surrounded by Sheep, or worse, in Carlisle, Workington, Whitehaven or Barrow?'"



Living in Hull isn't much better.

I'm 50/50 with Barrow or a Cumbria team, I think they is interest there but never to really become a big club. They may never attract 10,000 but I reckon if they were in SL a decent stadium they could double if not triple the current crowds.

If the RFL is prepared to give Crusaders and Quins a chance then Barrow is worth a shot IMO. Plus it would widen SL geographically.

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