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| Was positive about signing a 21 year old english player but then all this was lost to see we signed a finished aussie an a hooker never played top level consistently, the southern hemisphere agents must love it when they cannot find find a club for finished players to then see HFC We need to be building a youg team not patching a new team each year hoping for one season success.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"You're making the mistake of thinking that forward planning means success. It doesn't. You can forward plan all you like but if the plan is crap you'll get nowhere. This is the point I made earlier on. The BOD quite clearly have a plan and are sticking to it for good or ill - so far it's not produced the results that the fans want. IMO that's because of a fundamental underestimation of the importance of a good coach with plenty of experience.'"
I dont make mistakes as far a 'forward Planning' is concerned. I dont want to get into the argument about how long I have been a supporter - and yes Hull FC have been my passion for so long you dont really want to know. The Club I admire more than any other are ST Helens - they have constantly been at the top in all my years. They dont need to 'Forward Plan' it just happens. Would really have loved to be like them - our success years are so few but I would have liked in all these years more than the odd Yorkshire Cup win and 2 Challenge Cup wins. Anyway maybe next year!
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| Quote JMR="JMR"There is a world of difference on the effect a debilitating leg injury can have on the performance of a back compared to a forward, particularly when they are on the wrong side of 30.
The world and his wife (with the possible exception of Sheldon) will tell you that McKinnon's pace has 'gone' since his knee was shot.'"
Maybe you should read my posts on McKinnon?
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| People who are so bothered about his injury here is a quiz, find the link....
Nathan Fien, Lance Hohaia, Andrew Johns, David Shillington, Trevor Thurling, Joel Monaghan, Josh Miller, Michael Ennis, Trevor Thurling (2nd), Ashley Harrison, Wes Naiqama, Brent Tate, Darren Lockyer, Shane Tronc, Shannon McDonnell, William Zillman, Will Chambers, Willie Mason, Steve Turner, Brett Seymour, William Zillman (2nd), Ben MacDougall, Adam Woolnough, Steve Michaels, James Aubusson, Brent Tate (2nd),
and thats only the "top" players upto and including '09 you could and Campese, Vatuvai, Tate (3rd) and many others to that list.
Wouldn't want any of those playing for us would we?
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| I can answer!!!!
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Are you serious?
FFS man - how were we supposed to [iplan[/i for Berro wanting to go home early and Turner being a prat? Should we have not bothered to sign Gleeson just because we hadn't [iplanned [/ito do so?
If that's your definition of a lack of forward planning then there really is no point in carrying on this discussion.'"
Kosh Berro probably went home early due to being sick of being moved around all the time due to our crazy half back release/appointment decisions.
Turner...god only knows where the club feels his position is....Is Prat a technical expression Kosh?
Gleeson appointment is at a least consistent in releasing players with alleged indiscipline issues to only appoint new players with alleged indiscipline issues.
I think we have been incredibly fortunate for phelps and Obst to come along...but they aren't an example of planning....more desperation.
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| Quote Edenmain="Edenmain"People who are so bothered about his injury here is a quiz, find the link....
Nathan Fien, Lance Hohaia, Andrew Johns, David Shillington, Trevor Thurling, Joel Monaghan, Josh Miller, Michael Ennis, Trevor Thurling (2nd), Ashley Harrison, Wes Naiqama, Brent Tate, Darren Lockyer, Shane Tronc, Shannon McDonnell, William Zillman, Will Chambers, Willie Mason, Steve Turner, Brett Seymour, William Zillman (2nd), Ben MacDougall, Adam Woolnough, Steve Michaels, James Aubusson, Brent Tate (2nd),
and thats only the "top" players upto and including '09 you could and Campese, Vatuvai, Tate (3rd) and many others to that list.
Wouldn't want any of those playing for us would we?'"
None of them have been photographed performing a sexual act with a dog except one of them?
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| Quote kathy kirk="kathy kirk"I dont make mistakes as far a 'forward Planning' is concerned. I dont want to get into the argument about how long I have been a supporter - and yes Hull FC have been my passion for so long you dont really want to know. The Club I admire more than any other are ST Helens - they have constantly been at the top in all my years. They dont need to 'Forward Plan' it just happens. Would really have loved to be like them - our success years are so few but I would have liked in all these years more than the odd Yorkshire Cup win and 2 Challenge Cup wins. Anyway maybe next year!'"
I never mentioned how long you might have been a supporter. Why would I?
Do you really think that the continuous success enjoyed by Saints 'just happens'? 
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| Heremaia starting at hooker this morning for the Warriors. Not sure if it's been mentioned.
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| Quote Faithful One="Faithful One"Heremaia starting at hooker this morning for the Warriors. Not sure if it's been mentioned.'"
is it on Sky?
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| Quote Lostyorkie="Lostyorkie"Kosh Berro probably went home early due to being sick of being moved around all the time due to our crazy half back release/appointment decisions.
Turner...god only knows where the club feels his position is....Is Prat a technical expression Kosh?
Gleeson appointment is at a least consistent in releasing players with alleged indiscipline issues to only appoint new players with alleged indiscipline issues.
I think we have been incredibly fortunate for phelps and Obst to come along...but they aren't an example of planning....more desperation.'"
Berro was moved around due to injury problems. And you're just guessing at why he left in any case.
I meant Tansey rather than Turner. My typo.
How many times has Gleeson been in breach of the Saints discipline code? Do you not think he's worth the risk?
I didn't say that these signing were an example of forward planning FFS. The point is that they are a reaction to a situation that couldn't have been planned for. You seem to be struggling with this concept.
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