My opinion (and I appreciate it may only be my opinion) is that he has more to offer us than Horney at present. Rich is a top bloke and has ability but personally think Long & Obst would be more effective than Horne & Obst. At least we now have 3 options and dont have to resort to push Washbrook into 6. We even have the option of Turner or Westerman as cover. I do think that we shouldn't be resigning both Horne and Long as front line halves but as I said, I just think Long would add more to the team as long as we can keep him on the pitch.

don't devalue your opinion, that is what this place is about Jonny.

for me, I wouldn't go in to next season with Horne or Long in an ideal world, but then I wouldn't go with Whiting, Fitzgibbon, Dowes, Luaki, Radford or Lynne.

How many other SL teams do you think would want Longy next season ?

None imo, his injury record is not good!

it's not just that, even when he plays he's hardly world class nowadays

Widnes?

If Longy drops his wages by half of what's been reported on here then he is probably worth keeping, just as cover if we can get another half back into the club.

If he a) won't drop his money or b) we can get someone better in on similar money to what he is now then let him go.

Either way I would be disappointed if he is our first choice half back next season, simply because of the amount of time he spends of the pitch.

regarding giving Longy a contract for 2012, maybe on pay as you play, but a full 1 yr contract absolutely not

IMO it is more important to have consistency in the halves than anywhere else on the pitch and we can't afford to go another season with crocked half backs in Horne & Long

I wouldn't resign Horne or Long because I believe half backs ARE available if you look in the right places (i.e. Holdsworth, Finch, Witt, Sammut, Dureau, Herbert etc.) so we have no excuse

I'd rather have Longy for 10 games with Obst covering than someone like Marc Herbert.
There isn't anybody else, unless we can persuade Bosc to leave France.

As for Horne, I tend to agree with Jonnyboy that Long and Obst is a better HB pairing. Horne won't cost much in terms of cap space next year with the 50% rule on his service. So as back up, he's ok for me.

I'd rather look for a new 7, keep Horney and Obst covering halves/interchanging hooker. Longy is a sick note and doesn't play as many as he should, whether it's his fault or not it's fact.

Horney paired with a half who has a kicking game would go well IMO.

With agar leaving it upto long , does that mean we don't have another scrum half coming in / lined up ? Could the 2 overseas players be a full back and forward !

im still a big fan of Long and when on the pitch he still offers that leadership quality that weve lacks in recent years....but there lies the problem...hes not on the pitch enough for us to benefit from his experience......A new halfback pairing is a must for me for next season!!