Thought an assist was when the final pass or kick put the player in for a walk in, Longs pass to whiting wouldn't count has he still had the winger to beat. The Williams try at wire would has wire had a 2 on 1 Atkins drew the man and gave Williams a walk in. Would also explain why shudds get so many they are really good at sucking teams in to the middle and either kick or long pass to wingers who are stood in acres of space

such phrases never existed in the game pre-Super League, hence it's down to Eddie, Stevo and colleagues that we've got language and phrases involved in our game that are actually meaningless.

He means by the Sky 'pundits' who in effect do the vocals for Sky. Surely we all know by now that Sky pay the piper and so call the tune. ...grannyfan Cindy

Thats the price you pay for Sky being committed to show R.L. on the t.v.

indeed cindy, recently I've watched a few old games and I can honestly say that SL isn't as entertaining (to me) as the 'old' league.

Your getting to be a grumpy old man,"When I were a lad......etc..... "

Not at all, I am just saying what I see, the cheating etc. in SL now is embarassing, it just isn't as good to watch (to me), do you remember watching Gregory/Edwards/Hanley, who is comparable in the modern game?

made up by sky ??? never been to Oz I guess, because all those terms are common place in the NRL

briscoe, Tompkins, Price, Eastmond shall i go on

tell you what lets remove the 40/20 kick, and go back to contested scrums whilst were at it and play over wonter so we can play in mud again to huh






The modern game is very different to pre SL, much fitter and faster and thus more enjoyable for the fans although maybe it doesnt fall into the whine and winge remit it is in fact true,

do you mean the era when wigan won cup 10 years in a row? very entertaining indeed i must say