Im with you mate,the trouble is some people are happy to just have a team,others we went from 12th to 6th,some that we make money. Me at the start of each season I want us to be able to challenge for honours on both fronts if anybody hand on hearts think were capable of that there fools. I look at wire's squad and more there overseas contingent in hodgson,monas x 2,king,anderson and there is real quality there with strength in depth waiting in the wings. We were told let agar build his own team and to be fair to him he had to get rid of some bad apples but imo the squad as a whole isn't upto to top 4 standards,some good indvidcual players but nothing in the wire,wigan mould. Everyone has there own opinion and expectation mine is if it was a school report it would could do better and perenial under achievers. Make no mistake we have the potential to be the biggest club in super league but imo we take the safe,easy option because the bod know there under no real pressure because we carry on pouring record money into merchandise,season pass sales,turn nearly every away game into a virtual home game and just think were being held back and instead of being contenders were pretenders. Fwiw I don't expect to win any of the 1st 3 games and I think the club will be under pressure and will be intresting to see what happens then,because if we do struggle and with a massive chunk to spend for next season we need to have a coach in place who is going to get the recruitment spot on otherwise its going to be another couple of seasons of failure. Just my opinons of course and east hull fc fan just because mine differ to yours doesn't mean in right and I don't bag you everytime you have a posotive slant on things. But you will see the light in the end

Having looked through the Warrington squad, I don't see where all these half back options are. If at any point briers and myler were injured at the same time, they would be moving players around that would normally start for them. Don't get me wrong their squad is better than ours but they don't have a million halves waiting in the wings.

Monaghan,bridge,clarke just to name 3,also hodgson could move upto 6 were as we have?

Washbrook, Whiting, Phelps, Turner, Westerman, Williams and Nicklas.

We'd have had Berrigan and Tansey as well but they've ed off.

Bridge and Clarke? Are you joking? I'd rather have Washy and Turner!
Monaghan was removed from the halves because he was pants there and Hodgson will never be a half as long as I've got a hole in my a**e.

Wire would fall apart if Briers wasn't there.

You make SOME valid points, but you don't seem to understand that it runs deeper than Agar over the last 2 and a half years.
It's almost like you expect the mess that Kear and Sharpe left to be cleaned up in 2 off seasons.
The people that you so eloquently call "fools" on here are actually the true realistic ones. I certainly don't expect to be challenging because we have a god given right as a big club, you have to build to success and Kear and Sharpe left a hell of a building site.

All hail the paragon of RL knowledge !!







Have you not noticed what happened at Hudds, Wigan and Wire ? It was done in much less than "two off seasons" and it involved appointing a quality coach and then backing him with the money and ambition to put together a quality squad that is capable of winning silverware.

By the way, just in case you haven't noticed, we are as big or bigger than all of the aforementioned clubs



HTH

Sorry to spoil your little positive post thing but that's how it is !

Bridge is a good player, doesn't get the credit he deserves. I like Washy but I'd be more than happy to have Bridge in our squad too.

All hail the great post mis-reader.

Do you even really read what I put? It seems not.

If you think the only problem was/is the coach then you're gravely mistaken. There squads were, and in 2 instances still are better than ours. Kear and Sharpe messed the club up with their recruitment/ retention. My argument is that if people think it only takes 2 off seasons to get it right then they are not being realistic.

HTH, now do you think you can understand that before you reply?

People who post like you make me laugh, nowhere near the 2 Derby win threads but all over the play off defeat ones. Predictable, and quite frankly, boring.

I agree with that, it's crazy

Problem is agar was the site foreman

So you would prefer an unproven youngster and someone who is not considered a regular starter over 2 England internationals?
Agar has been a constant and do you believe he would have had no input into any recruitment process?
Yes Agar has routed out the trouble causers but he has still not addressed the balance of the squad which are clearly within his grasp and could have been achieved over the last 2 seasons imo, I'm not saying with marquee signings though.
And I'll think you find no-one is expecting to win every game but would like us to be more competitive and entertaining, not a lot to ask for. And yes we should be challenging for silverware every season because we are a big club and was well expected to break the big 4 dominance but all that has happened is we have let other clubs overtake us and have become another club in the league like wakefield and cas.
You seem to resort to childish comments or put downs yourself I notice when people dare to challenge your opinion. And just because they don't agree with you doesn't make them un-realistic.