Myself and five pals have renewed once again this year. We have over 100 years of loyal support under our belts but we have all agreed that the only reason we have renewed our passes is because we didnt want to lose the seats we have and the convenience of being able to arrive at five to eight and walk straight into our seats. None of us enjoyed last season very much (apart from the comeback against Sts and the first KC derby), neither are we enthusiastic about next season. All around our seats, the majority of people share the same view and will no doubt renew their passes for the same reasons. At the end of the day, the club won't mind too much about the reasons why fans renew so long as they do so but there doesnt seem to have been much discussion about why the club really made east stand all reserved.

If they didnt- and with lower pass sales leading to more empty East stand seats - then people like me and my mates could choose to renege on a pass and pay on the day (we all miss a couple of games each season due to work/hols etc so the discount isnt an incentive). Once that happens, a tipping point is reached when there is no advantage to getting a season pass other than the saving but - as one poster has already stated - take out the rubbish games against the likes of Salford, Wakey, Crusaders etc and the casual fan has saved their money already!

The onyl way to boost sales again for 2012 is to give the fans some hope that the team will go better on the pitch and no marquee signing can do that now. Only ridding us of Agar can do that

Spot on, I know it gets stated a lot but we really are such a dull team to watch, any result (except the two Saints games last season) is ground out, in a way it's a testament to Agar that at home we were quite strong and constistantly beat the teams we should have, that's why we held a decent league position even though we were terrible to watch and were one of the lowest points scoters in the competition, you can't argue that really Agar did well with what he had last year,that said it won't get meto part with my season ticket money.

Might you also argue then that one of the board's motivations for going for Westerman was to try and ensure that Agar plays a more attractive style of rugby this season? This is a really important year for Westerman after he appeared to stagnate a bit at Cas, I can't see the board being happy if Agar risks the development of the club's expensive new 'asset' by playing him out of position for most of the season.

We don't even know where he will play yet so that is all fairly pointless tbh. I think he will play backrow, looseman and possibly at 6 depending on the injury situation.

I think the club and Agar would be happy to bring in a high quality young player and even if for a season we have to shuffle him about he will be ready to play 13 for 2012 and beyond when Fitz leaves.

It would be a pointless signing if RA doesn't play him 13. He's not a 6. If/When Long, Horne get injured i really hope he doesn't move JW to 6. Although knowing RA he'll make about 6 changes for 2 injuries.

The fact he was called a means we are bound to see him playing there when the injuries strike.