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Quote: knocker norton "Spoken like a true Robin!
Must admit, as an outsider looking in, your main problem seems to be your coach.....You have a similar situation to what we had with Paul Cullen....Decent squad, with quite an outlay on it, yet making do with a sub-standard coach....Despite all your protests claiming different, our fortunes changing for the better only happened when we brought in a top class coach, and not when Mr Moran began chucking his cash about....He'd been doing that for a while with pretty ropey results.

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Quote: garry brindley "Pretty vague stuff,I seem to have you on the ropes
You've been pretty sarcastic about Lyne's performances, sneering that you must have missed his brilliant efforts. As a 17-year-old academy international, surely any self-declared FC fan would be backing him to the hilt and be proud of what he's achieved so far? You've said to those referencing Houghton being on the brink of international selection that there are at least 7 better hookers than him in the competition. "Slating" may have overstated it, but you clearly don't rate him as a better than average SL hooker.

What I'm getting at with the CC thing is this. There are 2 competitions. You dismiss us getting to the final of one out of hand as an irrelevance, yet losing to Rovers, also a one-off game, is consuming you. You're being entirely inconsistent.

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Quote: garry brindley "I misread what you were saying and corrected myself, see above.'"
To be honest, i'm firmly of the belief that the winners of the league leaders shield is by far the "best" team in the comp. If Wigan hadn't of won the GF would they have only been the 2nd best team in your eyes?
You seem to be measuring sucess on a knockout series basis. If that's the case, why so dismissive of our Wembley appearance in 2008?

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Quote: Mrs Barista "You've been pretty sarcastic about Lyne's performances, sneering that you must have missed his brilliant efforts. As a 17-year-old academy international, surely any self-declared FC fan would be backing him to the hilt and be proud of what he's achieved so far? You've said to those referencing Houghton being on the brink of international selection that there are at least 7 better hookers than him in the competition. "Slating" may have overstated it, but you clearly don't rate him as a better than average SL hooker.

What I'm getting at with the CC thing is this. There are 2 competitions. You dismiss us getting to the final of one out of hand as an irrelevance, yet losing to Rovers, also a one-off game, is consuming you. You're being entirely inconsistent.'"


As you say, slating them was overstating it. Fact is we have seen nothing from Lynn yet in the first team and there are 6 or 7 better hookers than Houghton around based on last season, I did also say he'd improved dramatically. Especially after the likes of Lee flopping so badly I tend to avoid listening to the hype and praising players for doing not much and hope quietly that they'll produce the goods at which time I'm happy to big them up.

I didn't dismiss getting to the CC final but as a barometer of a manager's achievements I don't think one appearance in the final after a fairly easy run to the final counts for much. As I've already said, the result in the final game of last season is so important because it meant that for three seasons in a row Morgan had outperformed Agar in the objective sense, albeit not from your subjective point of view.

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Quote: east hull FC fan "To be honest, i'm firmly of the belief that the winners of the league leaders shield is by far the "best" team in the comp. If Wigan hadn't of won the GF would they have only been the 2nd best team in your eyes?
You seem to be measuring sucess on a knockout series basis. If that's the case, why so dismissive of our Wembley appearance in 2008?'"


I know a lot of people view it like that and I can see why but it is a subjective point of view, objectively the defeat to Rovers in the playoffs meant they finished above us in that years competition.. that's the point I'm making, maybe we did perform better than them during the course of the season but in the record books it counts for nothing. Going on to your Wigan question, the same applies.. perhaps they would have shown themselves to be a 'better team' but whoever had beaten them would have achieved more in the competition than them and that's what I'm interested in.

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