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| Rule and co have given him a 2 year deal, even though he's proved in his tenure so far that he's not a very good coach, so don't hold your breath with regards the scenario you've just described
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| Quote Uncle Junior="Uncle Junior"Pragmatism?
I know Agar is a terrible coach and we'll never amount to anything while he's running things, so I can understand wanting to lose games in the short term in order to his accelerate his removal and hopefully the appointment of a proper head coach that would ensue.
That said when it comes to game day I can't help but want us to win, [ualthough if for example in the last game of the regular season we had to win just to scrape into the top 8 then I would want us to lose because by then Agar would have proven beyond any doubt how bad he is, but sneaking into the playoffs would probably be used by Rule and co as reason enough to keep him on.[/u
I really don't think that makes me any less of a fan.'"
 Hypothetically you would want us to lose the last game in order to NOT make the play-off's just because you do not rate Richard Agar, I am sorry but that is bleeding ridiculous!!!
Agar is just one spoke in the wheel of Hull FC...there is the rest of the coaching staff, the squad and most importantly the 1000s of dedicated fans, but hey ho let us not achieve any thing because you do not rate the coach 
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| Quote berrigans bitch="berrigans bitch":? Hypothetically you would want us to lose the last game in order to NOT make the play-off's just because you do not rate Richard Agar, I am sorry but that is bleeding ridiculous!!!
Agar is just one spoke in the wheel of Hull FC...there is the rest of the coaching staff, the squad and most importantly the 1000s of dedicated fans, but hey ho let us not achieve any thing because you do not rate the coach
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Don't really see how thats ridiculous at all. You scrape into the play-offs at 8th your probably going to be crashing out anyway. He is willing to sacrifice short term minor success to remove agar and possibly bring in a top class coach and potentially get long term success.
As he said he cant help but want his team to win on match day but thinking rationally he would give up short term success for long term gain, because of a desire to want his club to win trophies and compete consistently long term.
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| Quote wolfie="wolfie"I spoke to a so called die hard hull fan the other day and he is happy to see us lose so long as it puts more nails in agars coffin
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sounds a bit drastic dunnit!!!!
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| Quote Sdtwo="Sdtwo"Don't really see how thats ridiculous at all. You scrape into the play-offs at 8th your probably going to be crashing out anyway. He is willing to sacrifice short term minor success to remove agar and possibly bring in a top class coach and potentially get long term success.
As he said he cant help but want his team to win on match day but thinking rationally he would give up short term success for long term gain, because of a desire to want his club to win trophies and compete consistently long term.'"
Spot on, thanks
And as for Agar only being a spoke in the wheel, he's already seen off two assistants who had far more experience than himself and for a long time I've been calling for a clean sweep of all the coaching/technical staff; Crookes, Last, Pope etc... None of them are up to the job.
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| Here Here 100% agreed
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| Quote Sdtwo="Sdtwo"Don't really see how thats ridiculous at all. You scrape into the play-offs at 8th your probably going to be crashing out anyway. He is willing to sacrifice short term minor success to remove agar and possibly bring in a top class coach and potentially get long term success.
As he said he cant help but want his team to win on match day but thinking rationally he would give up short term success for long term gain, because of a desire to want his club to win trophies and compete consistently long term.'"
well put, i would definetely give up short term success (ie scraping into the 8, and crashing out at the 1st hurdle) if it meant a clean sweep of ALL the coaching staff, i think this club/supporters deserves a great coach, and IMO Agar unfortunately doesnt do it, although if he does, i will be as happy as the next fan, i just cant see it, unfortunately!
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| Quote Uncle Junior="Uncle Junior"Spot on, thanks
And as for Agar only being a spoke in the wheel, he's already seen off two assistants who had far more experience than himself and for a long time I've been calling for a clean sweep of all the coaching/technical staff; Crookes, Last, Pope etc... None of them are up to the job.'"
So, we sack every man and his dog and replace them with whom, from where?
Get real
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"So, we sack every man and his dog and replace them with whom, from where?
Get real'"
its called wishful thinking, aint going to happen, but you cant help wishing!
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"So, we sack every man and his dog and replace them with whom, from where?
Get real'"
ah the old 'who is there out there to replace them with' argument. It's wishful thinking to hope to get rid of them all, but I don't think it's too outlandish to hope that people who consistently fail at what they are paid to do get replaced with fresh blood.
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| Quote Uncle Junior="Uncle Junior"I can understand wanting to lose games in the short term in order to his accelerate his removal and hopefully the appointment of a proper head coach that would ensue.'"
What makes you think if Agar was sacked he would be replaced by "a proper head coach"? It didn't happen when his predecessors were sacked.
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