One thing i've notice from the preceding games, huddersfield, wigan and bradford is everytime a three man tackle takes place each oppersition player gets off the tackled player one at a time, which slows the ptb right down. Where as our players same to get off together, is this a tactic we need to employ.

Are players/coaches not partly to blame for the increase in wrestling? How many forwards take the ball up with a quick PTB being the first thing on their mind? This season, how often have you seen forwards run full tilt at the opposition, with the aim of braking the line?

IMO players are putting too much emphasis on the wrestle when they are in possession. Players see more advantage in hitting the deck and getting up asap, then actually trying to break the line. Problem is, by the time they have ‘Surrendered’ (god I hate that call) there are usually 3 or 4 players on top of them, getting to their feet one by one. The only quick PTBs I’ve seen this season have been earned by a forward piercing the line, maybe if players had that as their primary aim it would happen more often?

Just watching the Wigan vs Leeds game and if Alibert had been reffing it Wigan would be miles in front by now. The amount of wrestle they are utilising in the tackle and yet they scream for a penalty every time a Wigan player is tackled is embaressing. If only we'd have had a stronger ref than the joke that is Alibert when we played them.

thought ganson seemed to allow a lot less laying on last night, hopefully cummings has seen sense

that arguements complete cack, he likes slow plays of the ball because his team's rubbish. there's not been any more skill the last couple of seasons, but i'd bet there's been a higher percentage of tries scored from hoofing the ball in the air

Said that too. Hopefully they'll have realised quickly that allowing the slow ptb isnt the way to go. Saying that, would be useful if they told the players. Some of them last night looked confused when they got penalised as theyve got away with it for weeks.