reason i dont include raynor, although i like him, i again wonder how much he does earn as at the time of signing he was a gb winger. Must be on a fair wack and would not be bothered hugely if Raynor was released to give Briscoe the wing slot full time.

Next season Hall and Briscoe should start every game. They are in my opinion, full of current ability and have the prospect to be world class.

However on the flip, with Long a half back who can pass and kick especially, Raynor could get bags next season.

Must defenmd Richard Horne, FFS first poor season since broke into the team at 16.

Bearing in mind the impact of last years injury, distraction of his testimonial & the fact he is playing in a poop team with NO ball players & little go - forward up front it is hardly surprsing !!

I expect a top season next year, playing behind a dominant pack & outside Longy.

He remains the 'golden one' we should cherish ( accepting little gold on show this year ! ).

I do rate Horne, just think to have a running back like him, we need to have a play making 13. If not we will be were we are now still, Long will not play every game next year, nor will most players in the league.

I also remember Horne been the best player in the league for the first five games this year. My post was not who i want rid of, just who i definatley dont want to leave.

I know what you're saying re: Horne & Raynor, its not as ludicrous to say that as some think. But while I'm seriously up for a major clearout of the squad's deadwood, we don't want to be in a position of completely starting again with the squad. With this in mind, I think the two in question more than deserve to stay.

7 going, and there among them

1. Sleazy
2. Sleepy
3. Dopey
4. Dick
5. Crappy
6. Bashed up
7. Drunky

And the 1 already out makes 8

R Horne has a large amount of his wages taken off the cap due to being here 10 years, so is technically cheap in salary cap terms, hence why FC can "afford" to pay him more

thought you said berrigan was staying?

So some people on here would release
R Horne
Berrigan
Rayner
If that was released to the press tomorrow there would be a queue of super league coaches at the KC ready to snap all three up.
After 10 years does Rich not have the right to a dip in form after his health problems, his tackling has saved this club over the seasons, STS/LEEDS would have used him more for his attacking abilities rather than defence like Hull.
Berrigan=class
Horne and Raynor would be scoring tries for fun at certain other clubs,
Raynor outside of Gidley imagine it, awesome

I could play outside of Gidley and look awesome