Quote: pmarrow "Horne isn't a great player people make him out to be, he does the odd good try here and there but for me he is not what you want from your stand off. He doesn't do enough for me, people defend him but I don't understand why.
Why can Thorman be slated for being a rubbish half back but not Horne ? Horne can't create and I even dare say players like Jason Smith and Paul Cooke made him look better then he actually is. There is a reason he has being at Hull for so long and we have never had stiff competition to get him to sign contracts.'"
Agree with most of that, Horne only looks good with a good LF. Look how many tries he scored coming off Washy 2 seasons ago beating Jack Harrisons record IIRC.
Berrigan created two tries in the second half tonight while playing LF, as he did last week against Saints.
With the injury list as it is why not play Radford as a prop and Berrigan at LF.
Also when Berro is at 9 our forward momentum is stagnant as in complete opposite to Wakey, tonight their 9 was making ground before he passed to whoever was 1st reciever keeping them on the front foot and us on our back foot.
Things change for the better at acting half when Houghton comes on, Lee is too similar to Berro at 9, but is more effective in defence than Houghton.
Radford puts in far too much work in defence to be effective at LF, Agar is trying to emulate Mel Storm in playing it tight and fantasising that Radders is Dallas Johnson
When we did play open rugby we looked very very good and played some good stuff, as they said on sky tonight we looked as though we was in for the try of the season before Brough made THAT intercept, in all honesty I thought Gleeson was way offside when he forced the Thorman error.
Broughton WAS tackled as his forearm was on the deck before the ball came loose and they scored. Two dubious tries IMO.
All in all onother defeat with a depleated side, the forwards dont bend the line never mind break it, Maloney isn't big enough in attack or defence as he quite readily dropped off quite a few tackles tonight.
King is only just doing what is asked of him and no more, Thackery is a willing soul but lacks a lot of technique as a starting prop and is too 'gung ho' to be considered sensible.
For all those that slate Cusack, we have sorely missed him since he's been out both in defence and taking the ball up.
Tickle flits in and out of the game to his desire as he knows he will be staying on for the 80 because of his kicking requirements.
Burnett makes the most yardage when taking the ball up, has good hands and is sound defensively, Dowes does what Dowes does best and is very important to us at this point in time.
Lee tackles well above his weight and is committed to the cause and works his bollux off.
Thorman works too much on the fringes for a good SH to be effective, quite often he was 3rd and 4th receiver tonight and was wallopped when getting the ball as he is too slow, also his passing is rediculously slow and most of his passes are hopital passes and so predictable.