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| Can agar really be blamed for the 5 drives drives and kick though ??
Its just funny when Kear apparently lost the dressing room the players went into this 5 drives and a kick gameplan - The same with peter sharp and now we are seeing the same problems now Under Agar. You cant tell me that 3 coaches all play 5 drives and kick. Both Peter Sharp and Agar promoted attacking rugby and under both coaches we have ending up playing identical rugby. You cant say its Agars style of play because when he was at york there was no sign of 5 drives and a kick to the fullback.
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| Quote Raggytash="Raggytash"30k for a 22 year old who should only improve is positive IMO. However, Carvell is just about the best prop in the competition and we miss him immensely. He's been simply brilliant for Wire this year and their fans love him.'"
Carvell wanted to go, he would still be a Hull player if he didnt. To get any kind of fee for a player in the modern game that has spent more of his FC career on the sideline than in the team is pretty sound business imo
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| Quote Cardiff2005="Cardiff2005"Can agar really be blamed for the 5 drives drives and kick though ??
Its just funny when Kear apparently lost the dressing room the players went into this 5 drives and a kick gameplan - The same with peter sharp and now we are seeing the same problems now Under Agar. You cant tell me that 3 coaches all play 5 drives and kick. Both Peter Sharp and Agar promoted attacking rugby and under both coaches we have ending up playing identical rugby. You cant say its Agars style of play because when he was at york there was no sign of 5 drives and a kick to the fullback.'"
Did you watch his half time team talks on Rugby League Raw though? Uninspiring at best, he seemed the worst coach featured in the series.
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| Quote Cardiff2005="Cardiff2005"Can agar really be blamed for the 5 drives drives and kick though ??
Its just funny when Kear apparently lost the dressing room the players went into this 5 drives and a kick gameplan - The same with peter sharp and now we are seeing the same problems now Under Agar. You cant tell me that 3 coaches all play 5 drives and kick. Both Peter Sharp and Agar promoted attacking rugby and under both coaches we have ending up playing identical rugby. You cant say its Agars style of play because when he was at york there was no sign of 5 drives and a kick to the fullback.'"
The one consistent from kear, through sharp and agar is agar himself. He wasn't around when mcrae had us playing an exciting brand of attacking rugby
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| Quote Big Dave T="Big Dave T"Carvell wanted to go, he would still be a Hull player if he didnt. To get any kind of fee for a player in the modern game that has spent more of his FC career on the sideline than in the team is pretty sound business imo'"
For whatever reason, I agree he wanted to leave. In terms of compensation, 50k was woefully short of the mark. The Wire fans I've spoke to think they should have paid double. Carvell would start in any SL side.
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| Quote chico's nose="chico's nose"Game after game, we are devoid of any ideas and are clueless in attack, that is Agars problem to sort out, and so far he has failed miserably.
If he expects that simply signing Long will turn us into a potent attacking force then he is delusional. We don’t just need a clear out and signing a few player here and there, we need a total overall of our ethos on how to play the game. I hope Agar is capable of doing in this, but I have severe doubts.
Just incase Rich does read this forum I’ll make my message simpler. Us attacking game is bab and thee need ta sort it.'"
I think when Longy turns up next season he will put Agar into a steep learning curve, Longy, Cunningham and Sculthorpe very much operated in some coaching capacity in the way the game is played, attacking options, set plays, opposition weakness etc.
Longy will have a big impact more on the training pitch and will gel the side into a tighter unit to suit his match play.
The prospect of a Longy/Horne partnership looks a promising one and with Tickle doing the goal kicks, I can see Longy performing in the same transition as Steve Prescott.
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| Quote Raggytash="Raggytash"For whatever reason, I agree he wanted to leave. In terms of compensation, 50k was woefully short of the mark. The Wire fans I've spoke to think they should have paid double. Carvell would start in any SL side.'"
Agree he would start for any SL team when fit. However 50k for a guy thats at the back end of his career and has missed a chunk of the season for Wire too this season is still pretty good im, especially when we pay 30k for someone who is one of the brightest prospects in the game.
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| Quote Big Dave T="Big Dave T"Agree he would start for any SL team when fit. However 50k for a guy thats at the back end of his career and has missed a chunk of the season for Wire too this season is still pretty good im, especially when we pay 30k for someone who is one of the brightest prospects in the game.'"
Since we were paying him double that in wages a season and had him signed up for 2 years I disagree.
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| Quote Raggytash="Raggytash"For whatever reason, I agree he wanted to leave. In terms of compensation, 50k was woefully short of the mark. The Wire fans I've spoke to think they should have paid double. Carvell would start in any SL side.'"
Carvell was certainly worth more than £50k. The problem was that we were backed into a corner because the contract issue happened so late on and we needed to resolve it ASAP. If we'd had the luxury of more time maybe we'd have been able to hold out for a bigger fee.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"The one consistent from kear, through sharp and agar is agar himself. He wasn't around when mcrae had us playing an exciting brand of attacking rugby'"
Totally Agree - But another i would say is Lee Radford - The guy thinks hes a coach and im sure hes having a big say in what happens coaching wise at this club.
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| Quote Cardiff2005="Cardiff2005"Totally Agree - But another i would say is Lee Radford - The guy thinks hes a coach and im sure hes having a big say in what happens coaching wise at this club.'"
That's agar's fault as well then if it's happening
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