no suprises there then

I agree with kosh, a bit more optomistic

How depressing is that? No disrespect to those teams mentioned but they are not the level we should be competing at at this stage.

You have 2 teams with poor followings and 1 who were playing NL rugby 2 years ago, all with 1 final appearance between them in recent years. We've won a trophy and made 2 further finals in the last 5 years, we should be looking at establishing ourselves alongside Leeds and Saints by now FFS.

But two of them beat us

and cas were bottom and beat saints and leeds last season..........were did leeds and saints end up??

So you seriously think we will finish in the top 2?

If we dont change our performance and approach to games yes, we will be lucky to make the top6.