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Quote: richieh1981 "Surely forward thinking is building a franchise that has a team of homegrown talent that you have nurtured.

Yep, that sound like wire and not us.'"


Actually, yes it does. However, I considered Warrington to be forward thinking for making some astute decisions and signings, even if those signings aren't paying off at the moment.

Capturing Joey Johns was quite a coup at the time, as was Morely, but if you want to talk about home-grown talent, then yes, it does sound like Warrington.....

Matty Blythe – Wolves Scholarship – England Academy
Andy Bracek – Leigh Miners / Wigan - England Academy
Chris Bridge - Oldham - England Academy
Lee Briers - local - but ok, not young!
Jon Clarke – Wigan - local enough to Warrington
Mike Cooper – local born, England Academy - highly rated
Martin Gleeson – born Wigan
Mark Gleeson – Wolves Acedemy
Ben Harrison – signed from Barrow as a schoolboy – Warrington schools U11 England Academy England Academy
Paul Johnson – Wigan
Lee Mitchell – Warrington academy – England U17
Adrain Morley – Salford Born
Rob Parker Leigh East
Kevin Penny – Wolves Academy – England Academy
Steve Pickersgill – local lad – joining Wolves at aged 14. Warrington Academy, England Academy
Chris Riley – Warrington born – England Academy
Paul Wood – Warrington Academy. England’s international player of the season 05.


All the above are local born players in the Warrington area and/or have come through the ranks at Warrington.
Please don't believe that Hull is the only club norturing their 'home grown talent' .....and that their talent is full of world beaters.

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Quote: Standee "You can enforce whatever conditions of employment you like (within reason), if people dont want to adhere, they can go elsewhere to be employed.

What would help is ending this practice of it being perfectly acceptable to be seen out and about drunk, having "Mad Monday" etc.'"
The "mad Monday" thing is not a problem for me, it's at the end of the season and they do need to "unwind". There needs to be a code of conduct the players should abide by. All it would take is one of the "big names" to fall foul and get binned, others would soon learn!

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Quote: Standee "You can enforce whatever conditions of employment you like (within reason), if people dont want to adhere, they can go elsewhere to be employed.

What would help is ending this practice of it being perfectly acceptable to be seen out and about drunk, having "Mad Monday" etc.'"


They don't own the players, they only employ them.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "With which whom lays the responsibility?

I hate the "it's the players' fault" type comments. If there is a problem with a child, it's the fault of the parents for not bringing them up right. Same with the coach. Difference is, a coach can pick and choose his players.'"


The players are not children - they are supposed to be professional sportsmen!

I do not know who is to blame, maybe Agar has his hands tied and cannot discipline as he would wish. Maybe the players know he is weak and take the proverbial. Maybe the players have no faith in him and cannot muster any enthusiasm - maybe it's all of the above and maybe it's none.

I dunno - I just turn up each week with a little optimism and come away feeling despondant. Maybe next week eh?

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He is highly respected by the players, staff and within the wider game of rugby league.

the above quote picked from the official website.


hmmmmmmm i wonder

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Like everyone on this forum i am not a RL coach, we like to think we know what the job of a super league coach entails, but in reality we don't. However, like some on this site i do know a lot about motivating a large workforce, some things are universal to all things. It is obvious to me that Agar cannot/ is not motivating the team. It is often mentioned by media commentaters that Agar is a good coach, i have absolutely no doubt that this is true. But Is he a good super league coach? the evidence so far suggests that he is not.
When you have demotivated staff there are several avenues to pursue, Identify the problem,
play to the strenghs of problem individuals,
state clearly what your aims and objectives are and have a clear plan to achieve them
ensure that everyone understands what it is,
isolate the akward people ( you may not be able to remove them from the club but there is a reserve team )
You have to work with what you have, Agars supporters make great play on the fact that it is not his squad. When you are the boss that excuse does not wash, you work with what you have if you are not prepared or unable to do this then you have no business accepting the job.
Next season despite the recent signings the omens are not good. Our style of play is poor and all the signings in the world will not alter this.
Some people are good number 2's but cannot make it at being number 1. All the evidence suggests that agar falls into the second category

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