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| Not posted on here for ages but i can't hold it back any longer!
I'm not impressed with the promoting an assistant to head coach tactic. In my mind, if team are performing badly then it isn't just the head coaches fault - its got to be down to the whole coaching staff otherwise whats the point of having an assistant in the first place? We should have had a new broom and swept the whole thing clean. Agar won't work, mark my words.
With the focus firmly on Hull City at the moment I was hoping for a big name coach to provide a bit of interest in Hull FC. Giving Agar the job, talking about getting back to grass roots and probably (though hopefully not) having a team at the bottom part of the league for the rest of the season, isn't going to make Rugby League in West Hull seem very exciting.
I've been a die-hard fan of FC for 13 years and I'm afraid the lack of interest and passion from the club as a whole has turned me off this year.
We have a lacklustre team that has no real quality at all. When Jamie Thackray, a player dumped by his previous 2 teams (one of which was FC!) stands out as the star performer, then i think we have problems.
I know there's been injuries but be honest with yourself - how many of our side would YOU keep if you were the coach? How many would get into - dare i say it??? - the Leeds Rhinos squad?
Not many.
Players such as Sing for instance - what has he ever done for us? Nothing. If he's injured he shouldn't be in the side. Dump him and promote a young kid who'll be eager to show his worth in the same way Houghton and Washbrook have. Kusack is nothing more than a Paul Mcnicholas clone - he does nothing either. And without wanting to bring it up again - we should never have got rid of Briscoe. Ever see him playing with a lack of passion in an FC shirt? Never!
Its sad to say but Rovers show more guts, more interest in the club and make much more of a statement to the Rugby League world at the moment.
Sack the board, dump the deadwood and get FC back to where the should be = about 10 places up the league and a million miles up from the depths that this club currently is.
Rant over.
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| Quote: Standee "You can enforce whatever conditions of employment you like (within reason), if people dont want to adhere, they can go elsewhere to be employed.
What would help is ending this practice of it being perfectly acceptable to be seen out and about drunk, having "Mad Monday" etc.'" The "mad Monday" thing is not a problem for me, it's at the end of the season and they do need to "unwind". There needs to be a code of conduct the players should abide by. All it would take is one of the "big names" to fall foul and get binned, others would soon learn!
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| Quote: Standee "You can enforce whatever conditions of employment you like (within reason), if people dont want to adhere, they can go elsewhere to be employed.
What would help is ending this practice of it being perfectly acceptable to be seen out and about drunk, having "Mad Monday" etc.'"
They don't own the players, they only employ them.
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "With which whom lays the responsibility?
I hate the "it's the players' fault" type comments. If there is a problem with a child, it's the fault of the parents for not bringing them up right. Same with the coach. Difference is, a coach can pick and choose his players.'"
The players are not children - they are supposed to be professional sportsmen!
I do not know who is to blame, maybe Agar has his hands tied and cannot discipline as he would wish. Maybe the players know he is weak and take the proverbial. Maybe the players have no faith in him and cannot muster any enthusiasm - maybe it's all of the above and maybe it's none.
I dunno - I just turn up each week with a little optimism and come away feeling despondant. Maybe next week eh?
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| He is highly respected by the players, staff and within the wider game of rugby league.
the above quote picked from the official website.
hmmmmmmm i wonder
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| Like everyone on this forum i am not a RL coach, we like to think we know what the job of a super league coach entails, but in reality we don't. However, like some on this site i do know a lot about motivating a large workforce, some things are universal to all things. It is obvious to me that Agar cannot/ is not motivating the team. It is often mentioned by media commentaters that Agar is a good coach, i have absolutely no doubt that this is true. But Is he a good super league coach? the evidence so far suggests that he is not.
When you have demotivated staff there are several avenues to pursue, Identify the problem,
play to the strenghs of problem individuals,
state clearly what your aims and objectives are and have a clear plan to achieve them
ensure that everyone understands what it is,
isolate the akward people ( you may not be able to remove them from the club but there is a reserve team )
You have to work with what you have, Agars supporters make great play on the fact that it is not his squad. When you are the boss that excuse does not wash, you work with what you have if you are not prepared or unable to do this then you have no business accepting the job.
Next season despite the recent signings the omens are not good. Our style of play is poor and all the signings in the world will not alter this.
Some people are good number 2's but cannot make it at being number 1. All the evidence suggests that agar falls into the second category
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