well lets hope his overseas signings for us are better than he did at HKR
Takairangi,Simms and Vete leave a lot to be desired
They are on a par with Hodgsons failures

To be fair on paper, the first two were very good signings, when they signed everyone thought they had done well to get them, BT should have been a stand out SL player, but sometimes overseas signing dint work out. He also brought in Coote , Parcell and SKD, along with some really good pick ups like Halton, King, Abdul, Storton, Litten, Wood, Hall and Minchella.

A few squad player that didn't quite make it, but overall his recruitment was spot on and the bulk on the current Rovess team doing so well where signed by Smith.

To be fair to TS those three were all pretty decent NRL players, but it's obviously a gamble bringing any NRL player over, there's plenty of pretty naff players over here now that have had good NRL careers, Fonua, Mago and Kade Ellis at Wigan, Josh Reynolds, Kane Evans, Wakey are 'loving' Proctor and Atoni,

I won't deny that TS did lay foundations that were now seemingly benefitting from, but I'm not sure how much further he would have took us though, and I'm not just saying that because he's gone or because he's now coaching you either. Under TS we could always pull of a shock win against a top team, or push them close, but we couldn't do it consistently though, we had no structure and our defence was terrible too, poor fitness and line speed, Sky commentators loved us because we'd throw the ball around and score some great tries, he loves that 'heads up'style of play but that's no good when your still losing games.
Time will tell whether he can change your fortunes, he's obviously got a track record of doing it so maybe he will, but I just feel his methods are out dated now, his softly softly approach to fitness training in pre season looks like it's a terrible idea now.

I've been around banking and financial firms in UK and Australia. I've seen ruthless performers in action.
AP needs to be ruthless here. I also believe that after all this time AP is the main reason.
Don't resign any of the 20 until we have to late in the season. However, I would let 15 go and I've said who.
Absolute abject effort can't be rewarded with job security. That's sport business 101.
So let 15 go and bring in 7 of the youth, who WILL NOT let us down (D Litten !!!!!). Then the other 8 from NRL/SL and the Champs. Easy to do and will pay massive dividends later. AP needs to act - that's how I see it.

Just staggered with some of the naivity on here.

Who honestly believes ALL of our OOC players are waiting patiently for a Hull FC contract offer at the end of the season. I would wager that 90% of them already know if they are being retained or not, many will have already signed elsewhere. Sure we have some replacements lined up already.

Davey Litten is an outstanding prospect but that doesn't always translate, 7 others ready to go - week in week out ?? Do REALLY hope they are retained in a sensible manner. I remember Radders being a top prospect who had signed two contracts allegedly & was lost to the Bulls.

His 'soft' approach to pre season training could be to try and tackle or recurring problem of flopping from July onwards which the team have done for about 6 years now. Whatever approach we did under Radford/Last/Hodgson it wasn't working. Time will tell if intensity increases during the season and let's see how we perform over the summer/autumn.

I believe TS alluded to that in some interviews pre season and the fact we had so many players coming back from injuries and long lay offs plus the number of injuries we have been picking regularly.

Koucash gone bankrupt, rich owners not easy to come by in Rugby League