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| Quote vastman="vastman"Quote vastman="Trojan Horse"If after multiple months of discussions before planning and after submission between Trinity and YC (maybe WMDC?) haven’t yielded any agreement for funding by now then it’s unlikely they will.
The developer meanwhile have got further planning on the land at Newmarket.
I really hope I’m wrong but if we haven’t yet secured funding it’s looking ominous. At one of the early Q and As didn’t they say that they were aiming to secure funding/discussing it before the planning was even submitted? I may be wrong there though. Planning has been submitted and I’m sure there will be reliable estimations on costings available so I’d like to think it’s all sorted and we aren’t still fighting a for said funding.
The trinity board must be pulling their hair out.'"
You don't know that, sorry but you don't.
I get your concern but that's not how this deal works. The monies simply cannot be transferred until planning permission is passed.
I detest YC but even I wouldn't expect them to hand over the funding without the above, would you?
I keep saying this but the NM planning is only a small part of this deal, it's a wee bit more complex than just that. Even if I was free to tell you how it works I'm not sure I could, I'll be honest it's a bit beyond me. I'm only reasonably happy with the deal because TRB seemed to get it!
As for the amount, yes that is fluid and dependent on the economy, timing will affect the amount by a small degree, that's just reality. Even if we only get say 5 million it's still a triumph, where else would Trinity pick up that amount of cash? It's far less than we deserve but it's gone beyond that now, now anything is a win.
As someone who's been involved since 2004, it seems to me to be the closest we have ever been to getting something but I couldn't in all conscience say I'm certain. Keep the faith is all I can say, MC and JM are nobody's fools, I think we all agree on that, they are not going to be hoodwinked and they do have some decent leverage at their disposal.
PS: There is nothing sinister about the delayed planning, it's purely Covid related, on this one I think it's fair to say Trinity is NOT the victim of a scam.'"
Thanks for the reply.
I don’t know that we haven’t secured funding your right. I have absolutely no knowledge of how the funding process or planning processes work or what stage discussions are at. It’s purely apprehension on my part.
The planning seems like it’s just a matter of time which is certainly positive news. One thing is for sure that I trust Carter and Mynards to have the best interest of the club at heart and they do appear to be shrewd businessmen who wouldn’t be taken for a ride.
We will just have to be patient until after the planning is sorted it seems.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"Thanks for the reply.
I don’t know that we haven’t secured funding your right. I have absolutely no knowledge of how the funding process or planning processes work or what stage discussions are at. It’s purely apprehension on my part.
The planning seems like it’s just a matter of time which is certainly positive news. One thing is for sure that I trust Carter and Mynards to have the best interest of the club at heart and they do appear to be shrewd businessmen who wouldn’t be taken for a ride.
We will just have to be patient until after the planning is sorted it seems.'"
It's very frustrating and nothing is certain but if MC and JM have proved one thing it's that they don't BS. I do believe that if anyone can pull this off they will.
It's also worth noting that neither of them is an expert in this field so they too are often having to learn very quickly. It is possible that they and we will get screwed again but until that happens actually happens we need to remain positive and patient IMHO.
I can't tell you how many times I've been here before as have most fans, I do get the cynicism and the concerns. I now just 
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| Quote vastman="vastman"It's very frustrating and nothing is certain but if MC and JM have proved one thing it's that they don't BS. I do believe that if anyone can pull this off they will.
It's also worth noting that neither of them is an expert in this field so they too are often having to learn very quickly. It is possible that they and we will get screwed again but until that happens actually happens we need to remain positive and patient IMHO.
I can't tell you how many times I've been here before as have most fans, I do get the cynicism and the concerns. I now just
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I’ve been thinking a bit about this, there seems to be a feeling that Wakefield council are more supportive of Trinity these days. What IF, the developer has been informed that, should an agreed amount of money is not forthcoming for the redevelopment of BV, then the council will not allow planning permission for plot 8, and the land returned to Green belt status. The developers would then losing £120 million of land. I’m sure the shareholders of a company at risk of losing that sort of asset wouldn’t be very happy when all could be resolved for a few million £.
As I said, just thinking, who knows what might happen, I’m hoping No news is Good news.
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"I’ve been thinking a bit about this, there seems to be a feeling that Wakefield council are more supportive of Trinity these days. What IF, the developer has been informed that, should an agreed amount of money is not forthcoming for the redevelopment of BV, then the council will not allow planning permission for plot 8, and the land returned to Green belt status. The developers would then losing £120 million of land. I’m sure the shareholders of a company at risk of losing that sort of asset wouldn’t be very happy when all could be resolved for a few million £.
As I said, just thinking, who knows what might happen, I’m hoping No news is Good news.'"
How many carrots does this donkey get before it starts pulling its weight 
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| Quote snowie="snowie"How many carrots does this donkey get before it starts pulling its weight
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Depends on the size of the carrots.
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| Quote cosmicat="cosmicat"Snowie yes agree'"
You agree to what exactly?
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"I’ve been thinking a bit about this, there seems to be a feeling that Wakefield council are more supportive of Trinity these days. What IF, the developer has been informed that, should an agreed amount of money is not forthcoming for the redevelopment of BV, then the council will not allow planning permission for plot 8, and the land returned to Green belt status. The developers would then losing £120 million of land. I’m sure the shareholders of a company at risk of losing that sort of asset wouldn’t be very happy when all could be resolved for a few million £.
As I said, just thinking, who knows what might happen, I’m hoping No news is Good news.'"
This is what a watertight S106 agreement should contain, unfortunately that land cannot be switched back to greenbelt at the click of the councils fingers, a whole new enquiry to justify the action would have to take place and it would mean that the council would have to backtrack on its presentation to the enquiry back in 2014(or was it 2013?)
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| Quote financialtimes="financialtimes"This is what a watertight S106 agreement should contain, unfortunately that land cannot be switched back to greenbelt at the click of the councils fingers, a whole new enquiry to justify the action would have to take place and it would mean that the council would have to backtrack on its presentation to the enquiry back in 2014(or was it 2013?)'"
Thanks you’ve just burst my bubble 
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As I said, just thinking, who knows what might happen, I’m hoping No news is Good news.'"
Our cash-strapped council are salivating over 3 large warehouses worth of business rates and all the jobs they bring with them to the area. Trust me they ain't going to push them too hard.
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| Quote Sacred Cow="Sacred Cow"Our cash-strapped council are salivating over 3 large warehouses worth of business rates and all the jobs they bring with them to the area. Trust me they ain't going to push them too hard.'"
They will, but that's not really the problem, the problem will be how financially solvent YC is. That for me is the great unknown, we can make all the deals we want and offer them every carrot going but if they don't actually have the money we are stuffed. By that, I don't just mean for the stand I mean for the bigger project it is connected to. If YC pulls out of that then unless someone else takes it up it just won't happen, the council certainly can't and won't fund it. That's how I see it.
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| Floodlights looked good last night.
Up the Trin
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