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| Quote: JINJER "Or are they attempting to appease the fans in a "we tried everything" kind of way?'"
I think even the Bulls fans have had enough and just want to either win sufficient games to bridge the current gap or take the drop.
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "I think even the Bulls fans have had enough and just want to either win sufficient games to bridge the current gap or take the drop.'"
Same here, that's why I put an emphasis on blaming the club - although I imagine Adeybull will be on here quite soon defending the indefensible!
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| Quote: vastman "But surely the Bulls gave the right for that when they agreed to the rules regarding insolvency etc. You can't just opt in and out as it suits. That's how I see it anyways.'"
Who knows what was signed away if anything, this is the world of RL after all.
I'll keep my powder dry on this as there is bound to be some embarrassment unearthed on both sides.
It'll be interesting to see where the "muck" sticks!
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| Quote: JINJER "Or are they attempting to appease the fans in a "we tried everything" kind of way?'"
Think this just about fits.
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| Quote: Fordy "It would have been cheaper for Marc Green to just write off his debt in the first place at this rate.
On the plus side they are doing this for the benefit of the game as a whole, not just for Bradford
Correct. Case to point - Cas Tigers 2006 and points deduction for Wigan in 2007. CT could have taken legal but didn't due to the terms of SL membership.
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| Lets concentrate on our own games and make it impossible for us to go down what ever the final outcome.
I really hope the cost of all this spirals out of control and bankrupts them again.
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| To be honest the more Bradford kick up a stink about this whole saga the better. There is a murky undercurrent to this mess and I believe the RFL are as culpable as the Bradford club. Had this been football the press would’ve been all over it and the corruption/incompetence at the RFL would have been outed by some good old investigative journalism.
All Trinity have to do is keep at least 8 points in front of the Bulls. That’s the key. Anything other is out of their control.
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| Plus it’s a shot to nothing, if they win they will have the SL money to pay off the legal costs and if they lose Green could just ditch the club leaving it in administration again to avoid paying the subsequent bills.
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| Quote: Tigerade "Correct. Case to point - Cas Tigers 2006 and points deduction for Wigan in 2007. CT could have taken legal but didn't due to the terms of SL membership.'"
I'm guessing you are refering to the clubs signing away their rights to take legal action against the RFL?
Is there actually any substance to this or has it just become an urban myth?
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| Steve Ferres.. trying to stamp his authority over SL.
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| We should be trying to hide in the group about with Hull and Hull KR. Let the relegation talk about others and forget our name.
Might not be 8th but that mid table obscurity looks appealing to me.
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| Marc Green is doing this in order to keep his options open.
In my working days the company I worked for was involved in a number of High Court actions against us, all of which we won by the way. My experience is that you don't just walk into the High Court when you feel like it, the whole process can take quite a while and it could me many months before a date is set to consider the case.
Bradford, however may be seeking a "Summary Judgement" which in simple terms is a quick hearing to determine if the RFL had the power to deduct points or not. If the case is so clear cut then the Judge can rule that the RFL had no power to make the deduction or did not follow procedures. If that were to be the case then I would have thought the RFL could follow procedures (if it has not done so) and impose another 6 point deduction.
Alternatively the Courts could rule that Bradford's case is not clear cut and set a date for a full hearing which could be 6 to 9 months away. How's that going to fit in with setting 2015 fixtures.
All Marc Green is doing in my opinion is keeping the option open of a High Court action. As weeks go by he will review his position and if the situation is such that 6 points back will make no difference to them he will simply withdraw the action. If at the end of the season the points deduction have made a difference he will pursue the case.
It's simple if we win a few more games it all becomes irrelevant.
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| Quote: jack in the box "I really hope the cost of all this spirals out of control and bankrupts them again.'"
I think this will be the feeling of a lot of the RL community. Marc green is going to turn everyone against the club.
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| in my opinion, The Bulls are no longer chasing the six points back. What they're doing now is trying to manufacture a situation whereby its impossible for the RFL to relegate them. They are trying to manipulate the decision for the SL to reduce to 12 clubs into a decision for it to reduce to 13 clubs with another club relegated next year taking us to the 12 club SL the Chairmen want.
That in turn will push the 12 & three 8s format back another year, thereby curtailing the ambitions of the Championship clubs for that extra year.
Nothing else about this decision would make any sense to me.
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| And what on earth happens to the next club that goes into admin if Bulls are given points back eventually?
Also does the whole world of pro. rugby league go on 'standby' as this drags on and on?
Boot 'em out.
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