exactly, and what a brilliant post mick has posted just about says it all until the the world stands back and takes a good hard look at them selves this issue it will never be resolved

It's "the knee" that's the whole point. A player with strong religious beliefs felt that he should only kneel before God. That is the reason for Falou staying on his feet. He got flak for it. The club decided to stand united against racism rather than expose one player to online flak for his religious beliefs. I applaud that. A statement pre-game might have helped, but we don't know how soon before kick-off the final decision was made.

But asking a player to "take a knee" for a quiet life is hardly respectful of his religious beliefs.

The team did the right thing for the right reason, and that is where it ends.

I agree with all of your post, although I do think extreme groups serve a purpose by forcing a rethink. Take for example Extinction Rebellion, who probably recruit from the sources as the UK version of BLM. They do refocus the eyes and conversations on the issues they complain about, and we usually end up in a slightly better place, just not as far as the position they demand. Without the extremist protests, there'd be no reboot of thinking and we'd make no progress.

For me, that is their purpose, and it's a useful one. Acknowledge that they adopt an extreme position, but there is usually a good place somewhere between where we currently are and where they demand we should be.

Notable context;

1, In the US, more white people are killed by the police every year, than black people.

2, There are more people in slavery today (actual, real slaves), than at any point in history.

3, In the US, police forces are locally funded, trained, operated - they don't (all) have the same standards we see in our police everyday. It's a crazy country.

I do understand what you say Slugger. I hope it does in some way. I'd especially like children in Africa to become a focus somehow and in someway. Because the truth is 99.9% on here or on my twitter including the 5 people on my twitter who unfollowed me don't care either. We are numb too it. I remember seeing adverts of starving children years ago and was horrified. Now Im not fussed that's the truth less I'd donate wouldn't I? . I've a house, car, phone and all the modern day luxuries most of us in the West have. People spill more food on the floor than children have in a week. I'm not sure what the answer is tbh. I know people help other causes and are good people so Im.not saying we aren't. It's just so sad.
As far as BLM goes I hope they seize to exist and a cross party political group with other sensible members gets set up. Fair non political scrutiny of issues that BAME face and dedicated plans of improvement.

Quote: Mick Amos 9 WTW "I do understand what you say Slugger. I hope it does in some way. I'd especially like children in Africa to become a focus somehow and in someway. Because the truth is 99.9% on here or on my twitter including the 5 people on my twitter who unfollowed me don't care either. We are numb too it. I remember seeing adverts of starving children years ago and was horrified. Now Im not fussed that's the truth less I'd donate wouldn't I? . I've a house, car, phone and all the modern day luxuries most of us in the West have. People spill more food on the floor than children have in a week. I'm not sure what the answer is tbh. I know people help other causes and are good people so Im.not saying we aren't. It's just so sad. As far as BLM goes I hope they seize to exist and a cross party political group with other sensible members gets set up. Fair non political scrutiny of issues that BAME face and dedicated plans of improvement.'" it more than sad it's horrific to think that donations could end up being directed into unscrupulous hands, I've seen in the past charities take large incomes which I find bazaar but it's where it ends up puts people off donating again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25273024

Quote: Mick Amos 9 WTW "I do understand what you say Slugger. I hope it does in some way. I'd especially like children in Africa to become a focus somehow and in someway. Because the truth is 99.9% on here or on my twitter including the 5 people on my twitter who unfollowed me don't care either. We are numb too it. I remember seeing adverts of starving children years ago and was horrified. Now Im not fussed that's the truth less I'd donate wouldn't I? . I've a house, car, phone and all the modern day luxuries most of us in the West have. People spill more food on the floor than children have in a week. I'm not sure what the answer is tbh. I know people help other causes and are good people so Im.not saying we aren't. It's just so sad. As far as BLM goes I hope they seize to exist and a cross party political group with other sensible members gets set up. Fair non political scrutiny of issues that BAME face and dedicated plans of improvement.'" it more than sad it's horrific to think that donations could end up being directed into unscrupulous hands, I've seen in the past charities take large incomes which I find bazaar but it's where it ends up puts people off donating again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25273024

I wasnt talking about attracting attention on TV my point was that they wont take the knee when spectators are back in the grounds.
The reason is they will be booed and jeered
Thats the hypocrisy

Notable context:

There are more white people than black people in America, but black people are 4 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than white people per 100,000 people (2.4 vs 0.6/100,000)

Do you really think they would be booed and jeered in front of a live crowd? I don't, and they certainly wouldn't by me.
Once again., I applaud them for why they din't take the knee.for the reasons they have stated.

Has happened in the US where crowds have just been reintroduced in MLS. It's still a bit more directly associated with the National Anthem over there though.

I have yet to come across a single Wakefield fan, face to face in the street, who think our guys should be bending the knee. Similarly with work colleagues when discussing sport in general. I think it's referred to as the silent majority.

rlWell,if the sheep in this country that cannot think for themselves follow the example set in the USA - Off You Gorl

Who’ keeps fanning the flames ie it this author or someone within the game

AARON BOWER 16/08/2020
Wakefield Trinity owner Michael Carter has categorically refuted allegations of racism following his players’ well-publicised decision to collectively not take a knee, insisting they did so to support a team-mate whose religious beliefs prohibited him from making the stance.

While the majority of Wigan’s team knelt in support of the Black Lives Matter movement, Trinity’s players linked arms and stood side-by-side prior to their first game back after lockdown last weekend. It was a stance they repeated again on Saturday against Catalans Dragons.

That attracted criticism from some quarters, suggesting Trinity were actively anti-BLM and supporting racism – but Carter told League Express that could not be further from the truth.

He said: “I need to reiterate that this club is 100 per cent against any form of racism whatsoever. It is not tolerated at this club: we have banned fans for life for racist chanting. There is a zero-tolerance approach here and not once in my seven years here have I had a player come to me complaining of racism.

“We’ve got a player who is adamant that his religion doesn’t allow him to kneel for anyone but God. I didn’t feel that was open to question, I took it on face value. You could see during the week he wasn’t himself and I spoke to him privately and he had major concerns about the reaction that Israel Folau had received, to the point where he was actively thinking about standing down.

“I spoke with the senior group and said whatever this player did, I would support him 100 per cent. If that meant standing with him personally, I would do that. The players then came up with the idea of showing unity, linking arms and standing shoulder-to-shoulder, so none of them were put in the spotlight of being the only one who didn’t.”

Carter continued: “We released a statement pre-game showing that we endorse the BLM message and were totally against any form of racism and all for equality. I don’t think that message could have been any clearer before the game. There were eight non-white British players in our line-up who stood shoulder-to-shoulder against racism. How anyone can conceive that as condoning racist views is beyond me.”

Carter insisted the reaction he had received from some people in the Rugby Football League was encouraging, but he complained of a lack of support from other areas.

He said: “I can’t stop what people think who are looking in from the outside. If they don’t see the message we were sending, then I can’t resolve that. It’s been tough and disappointing, the reaction we’ve had from certain people. The lack of support from certain quarters has been disappointing too.

“But I can’t speak highly enough of Carl Hall and Steve McCormack from the RFL. They agreed with everything we’d done. We’ve had a chat with Alex Simmons too, who led a diversity talk with the players last week and agreed the stance we took was a stand against racism.

“Some people have got an agenda with racism and want to use that agenda to cause havoc. Education must never stop on this issue. We will back any campaign that comes off the back of this and will support it until racism in Rugby League is eradicated.

“Would people prefer us to ostracise one player and leave him to his own devices because of his religious beliefs? I could have told those who wanted to, to take the knee and left one lad out on his own, but that isn’t our stance. We took a brave decision and a brave option and we shouldn’t castigated because of it.

“I’m not embarrassed to say that there were a few tears last week talking to a few people. I think I’m mentally strong, but I struggled with being accused of racism and Wakefield Trinity being labelled a racist club. That is categorically untrue.”

Trinity were supported in their stance last week by one of their most longstanding supporters, the former Wakefield MP David Hinchliffe.

“As a supporter of the club for more than sixty years and a life-long anti-racist, I feel Wakefield Trinity were absolutely right to leave it to their players to determine their actions on Sunday and let players like Reece Lyne – from a BAME background – explain their stance,” said Hinchliffe.

“The statement issued by Trinity before Sunday’s match made totally clear the club’s strong opposition to racism.

“Rugby League has the finest record of any British sport for inclusivity and, as a consequence, I felt deeply uncomfortable watching what were clearly contrived scenes for the broadcasters ahead of the match on Sunday and the previous ones. Black Lives Matter is a fundamentally important movement which has drawn long-overdue attention to appalling injustices. Its aims should be strongly supported, but that support should be genuine, spontaneous, and not what appeared to me almost as tokenism organised for the cameras.

“I appreciate that my support for Wakefield Trinity at this time will result in accusations of racism. Perhaps those doing so might reflect on the fact that my own campaigning for equality in the past, as Wakefield’s MP, led to my being subject to death threats on several occasions and I, my wife and children having, as a consequence, to live with emergency alarms in our Wakefield home linked to the local police station. There are clearly differing views on this matter which, I hope, can be discussed in a reasonable and amicable manner.”