I'd have Clark over McShane at 9 all day long and had you not needed some cash (at the time), I'm pretty sure that everyone over t'common would have liked to keep hold of him instead.

Went backwards under TS but has been better this year plus he's far more of a pro than Westerman ever was. Still relatively young really at 25 and has played at Wembley 3 times and for England,

Maybe McShane didn't have heart for you, or thats how you perceived it but he certainly does for us, he's often stand out in a losing cause this season. To say he doesn't have a ticker or heart is just plain wrong. The Aussies wouldn't skin him alive either, he has that element of housary in him, he'd do alright.

I do think McShane will play for England at some point.

For what’s it worth McShane is a much better player than I first thought, but I agree that some of the talk of him being in the top 5 hookers in the word is laughable. He suits DP’s style & does what he asked of him to a tee.
I personally never saw anything from Moore other than him being more developed at 16 than most lads in his position at 19. He has also proved, time & time again, that he is incapable of doing what his coach (or anyone in authority for that matter) tells him. His passing from dummy half was some of the worst I’ve ever seen in a Cas shirt & that’s saying something!

Who has the most talent is debatable, who made the most of their talent is not. Simples

I'd go with that.

Apparently so according to CC. We've had to put England and Kirmond in to make up the 19 and they're both injured. He says if we get a few injuries this week we might be struggling big time for the last game. We're lucky that we have a decent number of back rowers but we've got 4 props out and not really any first years to bring in, that's where we're really struggling. In the backs, we can switch around players if injured and we have some cover there though.

Injuries have mounted up a bit in certain areas but rather now than mid-season & like you say not too bad all things considered.

Not sure what's going on with Jordan Baldwinson, because surely he'd be playing if he isn't on a DR deal.

Also, agree we don't have a skinny squad either, we had 30 players at the start of the year, with just 4 first years. We've lost Finny & MCB but their positions aren't the problem.

I wasn't really comparing it to ours (which is 34 I think) but Wigan for example have 39. Greenwood was wearing the 40 shirt last night but they shipped out "the rectum of Wigan". It would be interesting to know if any other SL club has a squad of less than 29.

I suppose since pretty much every other club has brought out the injury excuses, I guess we're due for ours.

Wigan has a big squad and can afford one but if you look from about 26 down, it's loads of 19 to 21/22 years old who've had a game here & there. We've had bigger squads in the past but when CC took over his main aim was to get quality over quantity because we'd have seasons where quite a number just wouldn't play, even this one where most of the youngsters are backs.

Just looking at other Clubs Saints has a squad of 30, Leeds 31, Hull 30, Wire 29. Wigan and yourselves are the exceptions if anything.

LOL just looked at Widnes they have 36/37 with Finn in their squad. Salford if Wikipedia is correct has 26, conversely Hull KR has 38, a lot of youngsters in that squad mind & they made some signings for the M8's like Carney, Tompkins, Hall & Crooks.

Wakey fans are the most paranoid around. Every defeat is down to being screwed over by the ref.

Refs hate us, RFL hates us, Box hates us.

Can't beat generalising a few thousand fans into one post, well done.

At least Wilzay said 'some of their fans '.

Also, how about backing your post up with some of the 1000's of examples you must have of Trinity fans saying after every defeat, it was down to the ref, or where the RFL wants us out. There's no doubt that Box has no love for Trinity though, especially compared to Cas.

Why does every single fan go on there or even more than a handful? Fact is the majority of fans don't go on any forums.

Also, let's be right go on the Cas forum after a loss and it won't be much different, good and bad comments and everything in-between. Every forum is the same.

He's out for the year - went on loan to Halifax until the end of the season then got injured

Heard there’s plenty of water down one side of the field, but not surprised with the crap weather lately, I hope those that wanted rain during the warm spell we had are stood out in it starked naked.

Some body has put a video on of the pitch and it doesn't look bad. On the other hand they have cancelled the pre match dancers because of standing water. We'll have to see.