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| Quote: TRB "My suggestion to you would be not to try and involve yourself in Wakefields stadium. Your belief that a developer just turns up and gives a RL club a stadium without the councils involvement is quite frankly astounding! This deal has been brokered by WMDC, no doubt, although they will deny it to the hilt and there will be no minutes of any meetings that took place.
Through this process I have learned much about the workings of council, and I don't care for it tbh, but that may be as a result of the double standards on show, both in relation towards our stadium and the developer - for whom they have more care for than us - and in relation to the differences between our situation and that of Cas.
I genuinely wish to seethe Cas venture come to fruition, but I strongly lament the failure to turn a genuine opportunity for a Community Stadium, and all that that could have been, into reality for the people of Wakefield and it's surrounds.'"
I don't believe it just materialised. Clearly the caveat for the development, and indeed the special circumstances for building on greenbelt, was that the stadium was built and part of the package, along with all the other incentives that Lateral have fronted up (i.e. contributions to town centre such as keeping M&S open, funding transport links and new road infrastructure).
If you want to be precise, I meant the council were contributing nothing financial towards Cas's new stadium.
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| Quote: Fully "Precisely, although I would also add that WMDC learnt from their mistakes with Newmarket by making it a condition that the stadium had to be built before any of the retail could open. That, and also that it wasn't a condition a proportion of the development was built first. However, I suspect that is more down to the funding - Lateral don't need to build to fund, whereas YC did?'"
Learnt from their mistakes? Is that what it's called, that's why a community stadium for the City of Wakefield is treated so differently than a stadium owned by a club the council leader supports. All we are asking for is the same political will.
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| Hearing a one eyed Cas fans point of view, which is pure speculation as opposed to the real facts on both projects is nothing short or boring.
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| Would Fully feel the same if the situation was reversed ? The way he is being so 'patronising' is enough to make one vomit.
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| In fairness, I think Fully just about gets it as regards what is going on here. He is unlike many who seem to genuinely believe that the Stadium Fairy just turned up and left a pressie under their pillows one night. Wigan & Warrington managed to get their stadia built via 106 agreements and Cas will too, but it's all too convenient to find that ours is the one that somehow didn't tick all the right boxes to turn the plans into reality.
We keep all options open. Manni is willing to listen and is involved already by ownership of BV. His involvement may prove to be the turning point in this process as he is not a man to sit idly around waiting for others.
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| Quote: MashPotatoes "Hearing a one eyed Cas fans point of view, which is pure speculation as opposed to the real facts on both projects is nothing short or boring.'"
Well it isn't - everything I've quoted re: Cas's stadium plans can be found on the WMDC Planning Portal. There's nothing 'speculative' about it. It's all there in writing and in the agreements.
As for Wakefield's, the only thing I've commented on was whether a similar method of funding was possible, which I dropped after TRB's message.
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| Quote: TRB "In fairness, I think Fully just about gets it as regards what is going on here. He is unlike many who seem to genuinely believe that the Stadium Fairy just turned up and left a pressie under their pillows one night. Wigan & Warrington managed to get their stadia built via 106 agreements and Cas will too, but it's all too convenient to find that ours is the one that somehow didn't tick all the right boxes to turn the plans into reality.
We keep all options open. Manni is willing to listen and is involved already by ownership of BV. His involvement may prove to be the turning point in this process as he is not a man to sit idly around waiting for others.'"
I hope the rest of the Stone Roses are as involved as Manni is.
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| Who is Manni
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| Manni is the chairman of 88m group, which is the company that has bought the ground.
Looking on their website, they are a company that are involved in several projects, that go beyond property.
He is also looking to get involved in Aviation and Shipping, which having worked in these industries overseas, which potentially, in money making terms, could be massive.
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| Naming rights up for grabs next year.
rlPosh Paws Pet Care Stadiumrl anyone?
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| Heritage Stadium
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Naming rights up for grabs next year.
rlPosh Paws Pet Care Stadiumrl anyone?'"
I assumed it'd be the 88M stadium - obviously that was a wrong assumption!!!
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| How about the wmdc working for you stadium
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| 88m Stadium would make sense but Im trying not to build my hopes up.
That isnt even funny at the moment Roverman
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| Its not meant to be
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