I agree PC concepts have been taken too far, like many other methodologies created to achieve parity and justice there are those who have missused and corrupted the intent. I agree that accountability is blurred (i have never known a time where it wasnt) but that should not be a shield for the blame and litigation culture that pervades society todey...

What you miss in your argument is respect... where is that...? in all its faces...

I am sure left at that, you would say that respect has to be earned... and I would retort that it is impossible to earn the respect of those who have prejudice against you.

All have the right to comment, believe something and be vocal but no one has the right to bear prejudice.

(p.s. that was fun to write, quite cathartic!!)

I don't believe I am prejudiced against mathers as if he did something worthy of praise I would give it to him. However, in a season where we can't afford any passengers, imo he does not do enough to merit a place in the team.

To show I am not prejudiced against him, I also questioned whether Lyne had the bottle required to be a pro RL player.

I had to read it twice to understand that actually what you are writing has little to do with the original post unless of course you assume it was made due to prejudice rather than reason. I am not saying you are wrong because I feel certain players receive excessive criticism not because of how they play but who they are and how over time this becomes to some the way it should be. It is in a lesser form the reincarnation of the theory portrayed in the novel 1984. The doctoring of free speech is replaced by it is Fox for example therefore he is at fault they fail to see the effort he puts in over the course of the game, rather they focus on he cannot catch the high ball despite on many occasions last season not having any protection seen at other clubs.
I suppose this could be prejudice not resulting from any one event but due to the premise of the protection of the group rather than the individual "to quote Spock the needs of the many out way the needs of the one" so you could say I have disproved my own theory.

Keep Kear was the option. Time for a change we were told. Well, change is great if you have a viable option. I don't know how much Kear wanted to go. We were sold the 'by mutual agreement' line. Frankly, I feel he was pushed out. It was a big mistake. I find it interesting that quite a lot of the people on here who sneer at Kear's record and how we used to play are often those who plead for more time for Agar and make excuse after excuse for him. Kear had players sold from under him too. Kear had back room troubles too; most coaches at Wakefield have. We had some bad perfomances at times under Kear, I know that, but, on average, we were a far more solid and dependable, professional unit, pound for pound spent in my humble opinion..and so many of those who say support support support, when something is plainly very wrong with the way that team is being run, have no respect for Kear's achievements and overlook the fact, in my opinion, that we would have been a better place now if he had stayed. We chucked him out like an old boot. I for one will always be grateful for what he achieved and wish to God we had him back, because this buffoon doesn't know a Rugby League player from a hairdresser, which frankly, Lyne and Mathers would be better suited at

now this is what forum dabate should be about...

Theoretical hypothesis about stuff which means nothing, will change nothing but stretches the mind and challenges mental models...

PS I am accusing noone of prejudice I just ask for the consideration that it might be there, even subconciously.

real story or parable.

My youngest son (aged 17) is in his final year at school... it is a very mixed school with the full range of immigrants and includes an Indiginous Australian Scholorship scheme.

He was in recess recently when he overheard a recent male immigrant student from the Philipines (of the same age)becoming verbal and abusive against a Downs Syndrome student and Downs sufferers in general... My son told him to stop!

At that point he turned his aggression on my son and became physically as well as verbally abusive. My son is a student of Judo, Ju Jitsu, Karate an ex RL player a weightlifter and State level rower... he took the agressor to task and made sure he was aware of the error of his ways... (he is trained to use minimum force to subdue his opponent so the guy came to no harm) during the spat my son was accused of a racially motivated attack based on prejudice... although this was not followed up due to the high number of witnesses.

So this young man accused someone who had challenged his own prdjudice by accusing his challenger of being predjudice themseleves.

(I think parables are meant to have an open ending and I am not sure this is open enough... but...)

I await Mopsey's response

I suppose it suggests those from the Phillipines need to under go eye tests or possibly depth perception. It does however show how ones upbringing impacts on one's outcome on life which the way he is going will be very painfull if he continues to pick on people like your son.
I get your point in relation to the topic of the discussion in respect that we all have players we have an illogical prejudiced view towards. They are selected despite what you feel are their obvious short comings other than favouritism from the coach. Why can't he see what I see etc. I too have these players but do not feel the need to lambast them on the forum so early in the season. It is human to be illogical life would be too stereotyped without it.

Lyne did some good runs against Wigan and I have called him in the past.Seen Mathers do some good things but against Wigan on Sunday he was not at the races.We are quite a predictable side to play against as we do the same thing over and over again.Silly basic errors cost us dear and from pro players that should not happen time and again.Its ok saying get behind the team practically everyone who went to Wigan was shouting and behind the team but when you see a player not giving it his all its hard to not say how you feel.

We are definitely too predictable (something that I am hoping a combination of Sammutt, Siejka and Godinet can change).
I was listening on the radio on Sunday as I couldn't make the game but when Wakey got their first try I heard the commentator say we had been tackled about 10 metres out, fairly central.
I said to my wife "Ball shifted to left, pass to Lauitiiti for him to crash over" about 5 seconds before that exact thing happened. I know it works well for us but it was an easy prediction to make as it seems to be our only set move.

I will certainly agree that we are too predictable and lack any sort of invention especially close to the oppositions try line. Right down to the same annoying kick off every time.

I hope we can give Catalans a right good stuffing! That would be just what the doctor ordered. We need to get the points and a professional and enthusiastic performance is needed 1-80 minutes.

Our only set move.... That works! And that has something to do with the commitment of the runner.... Although it seems to me we can do it the other way also as that's how Kirmond scored his try.

It is concerning that the team even gets criticism for the way it scores tries!!!

How dare we do something to score tries!
Ali out.

Think we employed filthy tackling round the legs tactics when we beat Leeds once, many moons ago!