Rather than Mash trying to give a pre match Churchillian speech. They just need to sit in the changing room and listen to what Wilkin will be saying about them pre match. If that doesn't get them up for a scrap nothing will.

Do some of them actually care as long as they're getting paid?

Back to Proctor, If it wasn't for his daft hair you wouldn't know he was on the pitch. Over rated ,over paid, has been

Thought he was solid tonight. Few good runs and some busy tackling. No errors.

Can think of a number of experienced players who had far worse games starting with the captain.

Missed tackle leading to a try and pulling a heel gifting a penalty on 4th relieving pressure.

Yes all that for a good 10 minutes then blowing out of his Harris. Pitts and Ashurst two equally old men have more energy

Make proctor the coach. Done for a player but knows more about the game as anyone at the club

Sorry but you need more than that from your highest paid player. He’s past it, sad but true. He does nothing that Crowther can’t for half the money.

And twice the minutes

I’m not saying we don’t need more but there were many worse players than him tonight on that pitch.

And given he did nothing of note that speaks volumes.

The issue isn’t Proctor.

The issue is a 9, 6 & 7.

I’m with you on 9. I think 13 is more of an issue though and Ashurst needs to sit out a few and drop the captaincy. Running it in is fine repeatedly but not when the ball comes to you in good movement prime for a right to left shift… Crowther stunted that numerous times.

I thought Lino and Smith got the ball into some decent positions today tbh and would persevere with that. Wasn’t perfect but was improvement. There wasn’t many great attacking lines presented for them except Dagger a few times out back.

We got ball in good field position and had a good bit of possession.

We even got go forward off our pack.

Our “halves” got good ball and ran sideways.

Both were terrible in my opinion.

Have to disagree… there was no energy, penetration, unselfish lines… no bending the Cas line… to a man the forwards were awful… and when you only have one creative half.. and a weak pack.. it’s easy peasy to defend.

Simply not good enough at this level ,whether in attack or defence our skill sets are woefully inadequate .The continual chopping and changing of the team cannot help ,but they looked like a team that had just been cobbled together the day before .10 minutes without westerman and they score sums the night up for me ,and sets us up for a long depressing season ahead culminating in the inevitable drop into the unknown