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Quote: Schunter "Enough of what? Agar hasn't had chance to do owt yet.

I repeat
Look everyone , a moron.

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He's not the greatest of coaches, I admit, but he does have so pros that you can be pleased about.

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[*This season has seen FC playing some expansive, attacking rugby.[/*
[*This season FC have scored 50+ on 5 occaisions.[/*
[*In the two seasons where we haven't been as decimated by injuries, we've finished in the playoffs.[/*
[*He has a good knowledge of players at all levels of the domestic game (I've noticed that when questioned at the fans forums)[/*
[*Was responsible for players like Tom Briscoe joining Hull FC (Peter Sharp gave Briscoe his debut, but Agar scouted him). If you're lucky, he may be able to find another exciting player like this.[/*[/list

However, there are a few cons that he has.

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[*Failure to recruit players for our weaker areas (ie, halfbacks).[/*
[*We haven't won a Cup game against SL opposition in 09, 10, 11. [/*
[*Very odd interchanges. [/*
[*Seems as though his 'favourites' are guaranteed a spot, regardless of form.[/*[/list


I wouldn't be expecting miracles, but he won't be too bad for you. Hopefully Wakefield can improve, with a new coach and a better financial situation, but your squad is fairly weak so I wouldn't be expecting great strides immediately. It's unfortunate that his appointment has come late, so he might be unable to make some of the signings that he would have wished to.

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Quote: Schunter "Enough of what? Agar hasn't had chance to do owt yet.

I repeat
You missed the last 30 years then? Everyone has a breaking point.

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Come on guys no point fans falling out. Let's see how the lads fair tonite and that may indicate if they are buoyed by Agar's appointment. Think I'd go if I wasn't working icon_cry.gif

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I’m pretty ambivalent about it TBH.

Not so long ago the club went bust, and then plodded along to the inevitable removal from the comp.

I didn’t want Noble, just feel he’s been there, done it. Certainly not Goulding & an Aussie option is usually short term.

Players & Coaches come & go, at least I’ll be watching my team play S.L next year – result.

There seems to be quite a few elated Hull fans right now, but I think the changes at Board level has been a bigger factor than the Rugby side. Whoever they pick to replace Agar has got one hell of a job on.

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If the signing of a coach who you haven't even given a chance makes you walk away then I say 'see ya later'. Not much of a supporter in my opinion and to be honest I'll be glad I don't have to share the terraces with you!!

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate " but I think the changes at Board level has been a bigger factor than the Rugby side.'"


you're wrong there, we were excited by the change of owner because we were confident it would lead to a change in coach, which it has.

Agar has been a spectacular failiure at Hull, coming out and saying "the race for 8th is exciting" was criminal, and phrases like "we need to raise us bar" simply made him look a bit foolish.

He's a good caoch (as has been said) and if he has the right support around him he will improve your league position in the comnig years, but remember, we paid a fee for Westerman and Obst, who have both made big contributions to us finishing anywhere near the playoffs, he has signed players on big money (O'Meley,Berrigan,Fitzgibbon,Long) and I don't think he'll have that kind of cash available at Wakefield.

His short term recruitment will give you an indication of what you can expect next season, hopefully you'll do well and start climbing the league, but the new stadium is key to you really ever being successful in SL.

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Quote: Tongan Mafia "Not an arrogant post at all its a fact your squad isnt nowhere near as good as ours. If he cannot make a success out of ours then what hope as he with yours? Unless 8th place in the playoffs is your goal every year?
I was referring to your logic that because he's been poor for you he would automatically do the same here. He may do better here under less pressure and be able to improve us. Some of the more intelligent Hull posters have acknowledged he does have some strengths and the change may do him and us some good. However, I appreciate it's easier and more simplistic to blame Agar for years of underacheivement at Hull and assume the same will happen here, but in reality it's more complicated than that.

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Clever move by Agar, instead of 12,000 calling for his head he will only have 6,000 next season icon_wink.gif

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[b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv] [b:3diuzizv][color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14911.jpg



Quote: Trinity Till Death "If the signing of a coach who you haven't even given a chance makes you walk away then I say 'see ya later'. Not much of a supporter in my opinion and to be honest I'll be glad I don't have to share the terraces with you!!'"



Careful, you'll be joining my Bullying club soon. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif


Just another in a long line of excuses for the apathetic "fans" of Wakefield to justify them not going, buying Season tickets etc.

I can't believe any true supporter would be unwilling to even give the guy a chance to show what he can do. I know he wasn't everyone's first choice but as I said in an earlier post, maybe he was the best coach that Wakefield Trinity could get at this moment in time.
Maybe, just maybe, he will prove to be an inspired signing and we'll get a team playing rugby that we want to watch. Until he puts out a team in our colours, who can tell???

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Quote: Standee "
Agar has been a spectacular failiure at Hull, coming out and saying "the race for 8th is exciting" was criminal, and phrases like "we need to raise us bar" simply made him look a bit foolish.

'"



I'm guessing you don't really understand Wakey speak then!!! Not enough swear words for you lovely Hull folk, is that the problem???

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I suppose things could be worse.

A couple of months ago we were in danger of not having a club to support, now we have.

A couple of weeks ago we wre in danger of losing our superleague status, we didn't.

Season tickets for £100.

Improvements to BV opn the way.

Hopefully a positive result from the PI, we could be starting on NM.

If Agar doesn't do well (slow improvement I mean, I don't expect us to be pulling up the trees next season) we can get rid.

I'm still looking forward to next season, it can't be worse than this one. icon_razz.gifRAY:

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Quote: Panda92 "

However, there are a few cons that he has.

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[*Very odd interchanges. [/*
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'"


Added to which, he hasn't given a single young player a debut this season, he has a 40-odd percent win ratio as a head coach and this percentage is somewhere near halved when taking into account only teams in the top 6. Oh, and, we've never won a play off game with him in charge.

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Quote: Fordy "Careful, you'll be joining my Bullying club soon.
You are Gordon Brown and I claim my £5.

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Quote: rover49 "Clever move by Agar, instead of 12,000 calling for his head he will only have 6,000 next season
You must have made a mistake or had your head in the sand hes not moving across to the poor side hes coming to West Yorks icon_wink.gif

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