Give Karl Harrison a crack.

I said the same about JK and I will say it about agar. Saying we cannot get anyone better is no excuse to let someone fail to fulfil their job, which is coach the players so they look like there is a game plan and some decent structures in place.

It seems to me agar is relying on some off the cuff stuff to get us enough points to win games. The team seem incapable of earning territory and building pressure through good honest hard work.

Defence is atrocious and shows no sign of improving and the fight seems to have gone out of the team cos when the going gets tough too many if em go missing

No he said we wouldn't spend to the full cap, but would do it in stages

One hooker? Agar sold Andy Ellis and should have kept him to play off the bench rather than burn out Aiton for a full 80 mins.

On paper we have a good 19 SL standard players, quite a few with recognised representative honours from across the world with some good developing players like Annakin yet we play like a bunch of strangers with no composure, leadership, passion or structure. When it gets this bad you have to look at the coach and his coaching methods as we are getting worse every week, not at spending even more money through that coach.

We were outplayed by Cas today but they were dire defensively.

The point is we are not spending anything near the cap and have the lowest spend in SL so in fairness to Agar
(and I don't think he is that good a coach) we can't expect miracles and can't expect to be anything other than a club sitting at the bottom of SL.

He never came in and said we would be spending full cap as I remember it. He said and he reiterated it at the first fans meeting we did that, we would be working to spend the full cap in the next 3 years. He talked about doing it with the right marketing, business plan and getting bums on seats.

The one quote I can find staright from his lips is"secure the long-term future and give this historic club a fresh start under Spirit of 1873's ownership. At the core of our plans is securing the financial stability which will allow us to support the team on the field and give our loyal fans the experience and success they deserve."'"

So it is not Agars fault for signing e like Lyne and Molloy when the money could of gone to signing a decent interchange hooker or centre, if money is that tight.

Thought we were spending more than Cas, Salford & Widnes personally. Anyhere to find out exactly?

Will not defend him re Lyne who looks like a bad signing but I do know the only reason we have Molloy is because he is very,very, cheap and his wage would buy an average hooker never mind a good one.

Molloy is no better than Mariano, Mellars, Walshaw or Trout. Whether he is cheap or not it was still a waste of money.

I dont expect miracles,but a few defensive structures or a game plan would suffice.
I agree he has what he has to work with..............but it his choice to let Ellis go,Mariano go,bring in Molloy(probably the most pointless and waste of money signing ever).
It his team and the buck stops with him,it doesnt take a great deal of salary cap money to at least have a team that are motivated.

I know what your saying but wouldn't you rather Agar sign quality rather than quantity and blend our own youth players in with them ala Wigan. Lyne and molloys wages together would surely get a decent player

Its a murky world but I would say Salford were spending less than us at the start of the season but not now.

Widnes are near to the full cap I have heard

Cas about the same as us.

Point is that is why those three teams along with us are in the bottom third of the table and teams like Wigan,Leeds,Wire are at the top its all about money at the end of the day.

Spot on , mariano is quality potentially but we (agar) couldn't get the best out of him

What like Isaac John