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| Quote Prince Buster="Prince Buster"Good post steady .
How can anyone give credibility or trust a report that can have such a huge influence on our future that lacks so much detail. For instance, so much talk of cat A or cat B. The report mentions these catagories at length and also states how they will influence league status. Yet ! not a single word or explanation of their respective definitions. Here we all are saying this club will be Cat A because it has this,that or the other. This club will be CatB because it lacks this, that and the other. Truth is no one has a clue, everyone is guessing , so ask yourself why has the report failed to give the slightest detail about these rankings ? What are they hiding ?'"
PB there is loads of detail, just go back 15 years and read Framing the Future, it's almost identical just different buzz words 
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| Quote vastman="vastman"I'm not talking about the proposal such as they are. I was purely commentating on the idea of some kind of break away.
The only way to change the way RL is run is from the inside. This is not the FA or even Brexit, RL is a tiny sport with only a relatively low value, no sport could need a civil war less than we do.
It's now up to those who run the clubs to hammer out the best strategy possible within the limited room for manoeuvre that the sport has. We certainly can't afford to isolate SKY with talk of break aways, suicidal for the wider game and plays into the hands of the greedy elite.'"
I certainly agree regarding breakaways, which would be even less helpful than the IMG proposal.
For me, it was the inference that off field issues will be more important than what takes place on the field of play.
They seem to have forgotten that RL is a sport and not some sort of corporate "ladder".
Many of us remember how Huddersfield were "saved" every season, primarily because of their stadium. Even their own fans thought that it was wrong, and we seem to be back in that mindset?
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"I certainly agree regarding breakaways, which would be even less helpful than the IMG proposal.
For me, it was the inference that off field issues will be more important than what takes place on the field of play.
They seem to have forgotten that RL is a sport and not some sort of corporate "ladder".
Many of us remember how Huddersfield were "saved" every season, primarily because of their stadium. Even their own fans thought that it was wrong, and we seem to be back in that mindset?'"
Ever since SL began the off-field v on-field debate has been at the core of the problem.
I'm actually not against off-field being the priority. However it has to be scrupulously fair and brilliantly implemented to actually work. In that regard SL has been an utter failure, and from what I see IMG are just time and motion men with a bunch of buzz words and will be no better, window dressers. God knows what this will be costing the game.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"PB there is loads of detail, just go back 15 years and read Framing the Future, it's almost identical just different buzz words
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Vasty we all know about framing the future Just show me where in this report it states we will use the same criteria. Just show me one fact for definate that you will have to achieve to be Cat A. It could be something along those lines yes but still made to fit their own agenda. Yet it could be things never mentioned before.
As a matter of interest ,didnt framing the future state you must have a 10K capacity stadium, if so and you are suggesting thats what the will use ,thats us done. Truth is you dont know, and neither does hardly any one else.
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| Unfortunately, you can't have transparency of the process and also know all the derails at the first press conference.
IMG have put together a structure they feel the can run with to improve the game.
There has to be a vote of all clubs to ratify that. If a majority says yes then they can move forward.
If tge vote says no, any low level detail was wasted. Its just a stepped approach.
I would think they will add more detail as they go but they haven't start somewhere.
The alternative was to keep it all a secret until after the vote.
It would have created less noise but no one would have had chance to put their opinion forward.
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| Quote Prince Buster="Prince Buster"Vasty we all know about framing the future Just show me where in this report it states we will use the same criteria. Just show me one fact for definate that you will have to achieve to be Cat A. It could be something along those lines yes but still made to fit their own agenda. Yet it could be things never mentioned before.
As a matter of interest ,didnt framing the future state you must have a 10K capacity stadium, if so and you are suggesting thats what the will use ,thats us done. Truth is you dont know, and neither does hardly any one else.'"
I was joking!
Framing the future was full of vague nonsense and so is this - i did put a laughing emoji at the end 
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| Quote vastman="vastman"I was joking!
Framing the future was full of vague nonsense and so is this - i did put a laughing emoji at the end
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Chuffin emoji,s can hardly see them without my specs
Lets both get strapped in, because this new circus is only just starting, months of fun and laughs ahead I think.
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| Quote Prince Buster="Prince Buster"Chuffin emoji,s can hardly see them without my specs
Lets both get strapped in, because this new circus is only just starting, months of fun and laughs ahead I think.'"
We should start with 2500 of the shiniest seats in SL and a pristine new pitch !
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| This is a return to franchising but with an element of promotion and relegation. Presumably, if category B clubs can improve themselves to category A, the top flight will increase.
The problem with franchising, and the struggle to recruit for clubs like Wakey, is that it was based on exclusion, not inclusion. What I mean is that it was about twelve places being up for grabs, and more than that applied, meaning someone was going out.
If the new model is based upon security for category A, the emphasis is different, as it is based on fitting the criteria, and if more clubs do, then the league grows. It's closer to the NRL model, where a team is added but no one is booted out. Provided there is no cap on the number of category A clubs, it has some merit.
I can see what they are trying to do. The problem with rugby league is that it's biggest strength, strong ties to strong local communities, is also its biggest weakness, in that it makes a small sport in the north. Imagine a league where fourteen clubs were as vibrant as Saints or Warrington (I quote those two as they are small towns in the north, as opposed to Leeds). That should always be the aim.
I give it a cautious welcome. It puts the ball in our court. Bumbling along cannot be good enough, either for us or the sport. As a club, we are a better than that. As a sport, it is the best in the world. People deserve to see it at its best.
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| Your right, the RFL will treat all clubs equally.
So the only thing to do is break in to the top 4 or 6 clubs on a regular basis.
Unfortunatly at the moment Trinity fans seem more than happy to watch the grass grow and seem to have little interest in supporting the club in building a squad.
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| Quote lampyboy="lampyboy"Your right, the RFL will treat all clubs equally.
So the only thing to do is break in to the top 4 or 6 clubs on a regular basis.
Unfortunatly at the moment Trinity fans seem more than happy to watch the grass grow and seem to have little interest in supporting the club in building a squad.'"
Give it a chuffin rest or stump up the cash. I keep asking you where the money will come from but you never answer.
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