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| Quote: PopTart "What makes you believe that? I'm pretty certain there is no sound on the video and he makes no motion to point at his eyes.
If it was reported at the time, why didn't they raise it in the disciplinary hearing? All the evidence needed would be the same evidence they would need for the fight in which this incident was supposed to take place.
I'm completely with any ban that comes after evidence of any wrong doing, but all I've seen or heard so far is from Widnes fans who already think Moore is the devil and want him burned at the stake for daring to enter the Widnes post code.
And considering Mr Betts made an out burst that he knew was worth a £500 bill, you'd think he'd have got this one in too to get his money's worth.'"
They didn't raise it in the disciplinary hearing last week because they hadn't completed their investigations... they don't put down placeholders for what might be coming in the next few weeks. And how do you know that they'll be using the same evidence as the fight? Why won't this be more in depth, maybe the video is inconclusive? Maybe they've spoken with the match officials, maybe there is an eye injury consistent with an eye gouge? All you need to do is wait. The RFL write up the reasoning for their findings on their website. It will be on that. There might be no case to find? I'm assuming it's not one person's word against the other as you would expect to see 'no charge'.
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| Quote: PopTart "I may as well say there is no evidence to prove you are not an alien.'"
You may as well. Doesn't make my statement any less true.
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| Quote: Dr Chim Richalds "Just because something is not proven doesn't mean it never happened? It just means there is a clear lack of evidence.
And Denis has been punished exactly the same as Paul Anderson in the same time frame.'"
Are you for real? Are you suggesting that Moore should face a lengthy ban just because Heremaia says so? What if, for example, contact was made with his eyes during the melee that he willfully and deliberately put himself in the middle of, but it wasn't Scott Moore? Or he copped one in the face, but it wasn't a deliberate gouge? I would love to see the wailing and gnashing of teeth over Widnes way, if this situation were reversed - there'd be a pitchfork wielding mob outside Red Hall.
I see that Denis has now been dealt with - hopefully he's also been advised that being a whiney little b1tch is not becoming of the new England assistant coach.
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| Quote: bren2k "Are you for real? Are you suggesting that Moore should face a lengthy ban just because Heremaia says so? What if, for example, contact was made with his eyes during the melee that he willfully and deliberately put himself in the middle of, but it wasn't Scott Moore? Or he copped one in the face, but it wasn't a deliberate gouge? I would love to see the wailing and gnashing of teeth over Widnes way, if this situation were reversed - there'd be a pitchfork wielding mob outside Red Hall.
I see that Denis has now been dealt with - hopefully he's also been advised that being a whiney little b1tch is not becoming of the new England assistant coach.'"
I am for real and no I haven't said that anywhere. I think that's you looking for an argument mate.
If it's a one against one then I think there would and should be a 'no charge'. It doesn't mean that it didn't happen. If a robbery happens and it isn't caught on camera and it's the victim's word against the robber then it still happened.
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| Quote: Dr Chim Richalds "I believe that Heremia tried to make the complaint to Cobb as he was leaving the field but was told to leave which is fair enough. It was reported to the match commissioner at that point of the game. It has been in the process of being investigated since. I'm assuming that the investigation is finished they have collected whatever evidence they feel they need and they are ready for the hearing.'"
No if he was trying to tell him about an eye gauge he would have as the fight broke up.he only went moaning to the ref when he got sent off so obviously disagreeing about the decision.he did nothing to suggest he had been poked in the eye.
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| This is a disgrace. Days after btw he eye gouged me it's absolute nonsense. Widnes cry babies
. You don't hear Moore saying Herman jumped.and.punched me on the floor. Video evidence in conclusive his word against Moores. No ban It should be. Moore is a pivotal player. Howarth ain't upto it never been a fan and can't pass the ball from the ground. Would not give him a deal no way
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "This is a disgrace. Days after btw he eye gouged me it's absolute nonsense. Widnes cry babies
. You don't hear Moore saying Herman jumped.and.punched me on the floor. Video evidence in conclusive his word against Moores. No ban It should be. Moore is a pivotal player. Howarth ain't upto it never been a fan and can't pass the ball from the ground. Would not give him a deal no way'"
Constructive and eloquent as ever.
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| Quote: Dr Chim Richalds "......If it's a one against one then I think there would and should be a 'no charge'. It doesn't mean that it didn't happen. If a robbery happens and it isn't caught on camera and it's the victim's word against the robber then it still happened.'"
Not great logic there......anybody can make a wild accusation and there should be some evidence to corroborate it e.g. injury/CCTV/Witness......
........'Scott Moore isn’t a malicious player. We’re going to fight tooth and nail to overcome this accusation. There is zero video evidence. It was in the melee so I don’t know how anyone has seen anything untoward. Scott is adamant he didn’t gouge the player and we wouldn’t be fighting his corner if we didn’t believe him. Scott has simply said he was defending himself as you would with so many people on top of you.”
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| Quote: Dr Chim Richalds "You may as well. Doesn't make my statement any less true.'"
There is no fact in your statement to be true or false only your maybes and assumptions which you conclude would make him guilty even if there is no evidence.
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| Why is it that when a lower team starts to improve the RFL desides that not Going happen while one of their four teams are in the lower half, they then try a player 2weeks later for throwing a punch when he is under a pile bodies.
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| Hi RAF
We have a whole thread on this. I'll merge this one in.
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "No ban It should be.'"
Thanks Master Yoda.
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| Looking more and more like this is based on hearsay than any actual hard evidence. In which case, would it be possible to take the MRP and Widnes to the COAFS?
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| Will have to wait and see what evidence next week brings, but the audacity of an individual to complain about the person they're beating the out of possibly having their hand in his face at the time strikes me as cheek of the highest order.
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