Quote asmadasa="asmadasa"I think the current squad could make SL history this year….. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... gby-league'" And were not even allowed to offer constructive criticism according to the messiah, as this is codswallop. Instead, we the fans are expected to suck this up, and continue to stump up their hard earned cash every week. Some folk in this day and age can only just about keep their head above water, financially, and expecting them to cough up every week, and accept the poor performances every week, on and off the pitch, with no indication from certain people of any kind of plan as to what's happening or where we're going is poor. People are voting with their feet.

Quote asmadasa="asmadasa"I think the current squad could make SL history this year….. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... gby-league'" And were not even allowed to offer constructive criticism according to the messiah, as this is codswallop. Instead, we the fans are expected to suck this up, and continue to stump up their hard earned cash every week. Some folk in this day and age can only just about keep their head above water, financially, and expecting them to cough up every week, and accept the poor performances every week, on and off the pitch, with no indication from certain people of any kind of plan as to what's happening or where we're going is poor. People are voting with their feet.

I'm pretty sure of 2 things
1) he didn't say not to give constructive criticism
2) there has been no constructive criticism raised as far as I can see so no need to worry.

How about after ten years they have failed to bring in sufficient revenue to produce a SL standard squad. I would assume this would be the main factor for any business.

He did.

You may want to listen to his podcast again

"Constructive criticism"??
I confess I haven't listened but if he actually said that I'm surprised and also a bit disappointed

Here is some criticism.
Communication and media profile are crap.
The image most people have of us is of a cheapskate, we are 150 years old and should be celebratory and not dragged down by constant negativity. Bloody sick of reading “winless Wakefield”.

Thanks for explaining the difference between criticism and constructive criticism Manuel.

I don't dispute his right to feel how he does, given some of the stuff that gets thrown around, and I would feel the same way. I just don't think he should voice it.

He's in the sales business, selling entertainment. No one in the sales business outwardly moans about how their customers feel about their products or their "shopping journey", or whatever email surveys call them now. They ask themselves how they can improve the experience, how they can communicate the improvements, and how they can increase the enjoyment for their customers.

To some extent, he has done that, by providing an improved ground. But his magazine comments were along the lines of "stop having a go at us and the players, it only makes a bad situation worse", and he has in the past, and it just rubs peoples' backs up. It did mine, and I am broadly supportive of how everything seems.

We just can't afford to lose any of the support we have. Thank the fans for the passion they have and make them feel valued, even if he doesn't mean it.

Does anyone outside know that it's our 150th year ?
It's a huge milestone and we're keeping quiet about it.

The irony of the stadium upgrade, just as we succumb to relegation is awful.

The taking of players on 2 week loan deals also seems crazy, what on earth does this do to the remaining squad members.
They need to believe that if they train hard, they will get their chance but, the short term loan deals must be like a kick in the nuts.

All we have done is help other clubs improve the fitness of their squads, while we demotivate our own players.

Some sycophants can’t see the wood for the trees. We are all fans and naturally expect better from its custodians. Remove the sand pit so heads are viewing what is happening.

He seems to be missing the point as re. 'criticism.' As do a lot of others. First of all, when football, rugby, fans of any sporting club say something like, God we are crap....clearly that's not constructive, but it's not supposed to be!! It's people venting their frustration, anger, despondency at their teams performances. You can go back to Victorian times when paying 'spectators' used to throw tomatoes at stage performers because they were unhappy with what they were seeing, having paid their hard earned to witness a 'performance.' That's just the way it is, right or wrong. He's very naïve if he thinks that fans aren't going to have a go. It's like he's created this world where, you can only speak when things are going well, just give praise, but when things go wrong, say nothing at all?!

Wakefield Trinity compared to Premier league football is obviously small fry, Spurs actually refunded the fans who travelled to Newcastle the other week because they gave a sub-standard performance. I think there has been some who have tried to be constructive at times, instead of just saying we are rubbish, but the longer the losing run goes on, how can you find ANYTHING constructive or positive to say about on field performances?! You would have to make things up just for the sake of positivity.....

I completely agree.

But the criticism isn't always like that.
Even in this thread it is "he is crap" and "he did this on purpose because he wants to take us to championship"
When people either make things up or draw a conclusion based on nothing but their own agenda but post it as a fact......it isn't the same as you describe.

But I also agree with Slugger, he should choose where he says that a little better.