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Quote: Fully "Would you not classify a divide down the middle one set of fans on one side, one set of fans on the other with stewards down the middle as segregation? Alternatively, had there been sufficient stewarding and/or policing in the first place with the fans kicking off rightly ejected, then one could argue the situation would have been prevented or minimalised.'"


Just as a matter of interest are you saying the line of stewards were there before any trouble started? When we arrived at about 7.25 we walked straight up the middle of the North Stand, exactly where all the trouble was to happen a little while later, and there were a couple of stewards at the bottom but there was no line of stewards and no segregation that I could see. We wouldn't have intentionally stood there had there been any signs off what was to come and I reckon a line of stewards might just have given that impression. For what it's worth the line of stewards appeared around and just after the first try was scored. If you saw any different I'd be interested to hear it as we were stood about 20 yards from where the majority of the trouble started.

I don't know how many times it has to be said while mistakes were made by certain people the only people to blame are those who took part and chose to bring shame on our sport and our respective clubs. To blame Glover, Elston, Wright or the guy selling beer is to deflect attention from the real problem which is mindless idiots who can't handle their beer. The continued sniping does not reflect well on either club or their supporters.

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JT: I arrived at 6:45pm. When I went in I walked as far as I could towards the posts. I half-expected to be stopped and be told you can go no further. Where we stopped was about 10m from the divide, the steps being the place where stewards were stood. I believe the Head Steward was there issuing instructions. There were certainly at least 5/6 stewards there at that stage. Certainly not enough for the volume of people. This increased as it drew nearer to kick off. When the problems started more stewards arrived and created the line that we had to stymie the trouble.

Ps: by line I meant where the stewards were clearly going to separate fans rather than just dotted around a stand.

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Quote: Fully "JT

Maybe it would have been better if you had not been allowed into the North Stand at all and directed towards the East Stand. But no, because that chairman of yours, who is the only reason I have a real dislike for your club, wanted to rant about how his supporters could stand where they liked, and if they wanted the North Stand, they could have the North Stand, or whatever.

The fixture has been 7.30pm for years. This years was stoked up for two reasons: our club's intention to segregate, which for some reason offended Cas fans, as if they were being deprived the full enjoyment of our wonderful stadium, and your chairman's insistence that they shouldn't. Dickie helped turn rivalry into ugliness.

Now get a move on, Fully, Dickie needs his shirts ironing.

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Quote: Fully "JT

I'm not sure I'm with you on this one when we arrived we walked straight to the middle of the North Stand there were a couple of stewards but they never asked us or told us anything once we headed up the steps we were free to head left or right and were not directed either way by anyone. We stood right at the top in the middle and events unfolded from there. From where we stood and from our experience in the ground there was no segregation before kick off. Even after the trouble started we were able to stand quite happily next to both Cas and Wakey fans at the top of the North Stand smack bang in the middle hardly segregation. It was then that folk from both Wakey and Cas decided to move further up the terrace to try and get to each other and we decided to move. I saw close up idiots from both sides acting in a pathetic, violent and dangerous manner you can dress it up how you like but the fault will still lie with those idiots.

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I arrived early with my 14 yr old grandson and stood behined the sticks two rows up at the north end.
To start with there were two stewards patroling the railings but they disappeared early and we did not see them again. There were two middle aged cas fans stood behined us shouting bad language throughout the match, all drinking pints and at the front on the railings were a gang of young cas lads about 14 year olds each with a bottle of WKD in each hand.
I have been watching wakefield on and off since the sixties and its the first time i have walked out of the gate to be met with a line of police and police vans and having to explain and dampen down the situation to my grandson.

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I was on holiday last Friday so saw nothing of what transpired but from previous experience I think I can pretty much say with certainty that it was not down to just one set of fans. If you don't allow yourself to get goaded into it then these things just simmer down and die away.
Doesn't really matter to me who started it, if the other club's fans wanted to be regarded as blameless then they should have ignored any attempts to drag them into it.
In reality both Wakey and Cas have some fans who drink much more than they are able to handle and as such lose their sense of perspective.


Will be interesting to see how the game at Post Office Road goes and if that passes off with no incident, bearing in mind the protested innocence of some of the Cas fans.

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See Fully has just changes his statement and words dependant on what forum he is on....again.

Cant take more of his crap.

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Quote: mwildcats "See Fully has just changes his statement and words dependant on what forum he is on....again.

Cant take more of his crap.'"


Not changed anything.

Maintained same story, same comments all along. But keep talking rubbish.....again.

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Quote: Fully "Not changed anything.

Maintained same story, same comments all along. But keep talking rubbish.....again.'"


icon_lol.gif Classic icon_lol.gif
Finally a confession from Fully. Official: Fully keeps talking rubbish.

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Quote: Fully "Not changed anything.

Maintained same story, same comments all along. But keep talking rubbish.....again.'"

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Quote:I hope my email is seriously taken note of.

This wasn't the Cas fans. This was the Wakefield fans. I happened to see a few of the singers in the Barmy Army filming on their phones. Does anybody know anyone that has that?

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I'm not saying both supporters weren't involved. But it's a futile argument - Cas fans believe Wakey fans threw the first bottle, Wakey other way. I didn't see. But the one I did see came from the Wakey end and the Cas fans retaliated. Both as bad each other.

I'd say that was a change of tact wouldn't you?

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As I posted a page back if you read, I was referring to the initial trouble and completely missed the bottle throwing.

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Quote: Fully "As I posted a page back if you read, I was referring to the initial trouble and completely missed the bottle throwing.'"


...and beer/cig throwing?

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Quote: Lupset_Airport "...and beer/cig throwing?'"


Is beer not the same as bottles?

As for cigs, didn't see any of that.

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Quote: Fully "Is beer not the same as bottles?

As for cigs, didn't see any of that.'"


Beer as in sprayed. I'm not sure which is technically more accurate. I guess all you saw was 27 Fax fans and 1 confused Hull fan.

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Quote: coco the fullback "icon_lol.gif Classic Leave the soft lad alone, he doesn't even take himself seriously I think every forum has one. He is obsessed with the city of Wakefield though, our RL team our community stadium, the north stand belle Vue writing emails against us. He knows lots about nothing.
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