I thought Willie Poching was just lucky that the players rebelled and did the coaching themselves?

Wonder if Miller will be leading a similar revolt at Cas shortly?

Every bit as important for me was the deal everyone squealed from the rooftop about how Carter had sold us down the river , and that’s the Dagger swap with Hall . Not many people moaning now about the deal

Dagger is great. But the deal was still shocking.

So out of interest, given the hindsight on both players.
If the only way to get Dagger was to let Hall go, would you do it now?

Or more realistically, if Hull KR offered to reverse it. Would you swap back or keep as you are?

A total guess but I think hall would have been off at the end of the season anyway, so to let him go for a FB probably for the best.
Hall was markable and used correctly could have helped the club out.
Don't think anyone can look back in anger now, but at the time it seemed to be better for KR
Could we have got Dagger anyway, who knows

At this moment in time def would not swap back . Dagger has been fantastic !

HKR must have some great players if they can let players like Dagger go .Think he as surprised most Wakefield fans by how good he is including me ,As well as team played last night ,his goal kicking won us the match .Did cost us a good young ,but at 24 looks the part .Better than going down the road of old players root which as put us were we are

As it happens Dagger versatility has proven more worthwhile to us than Halls talent. As much as I liked Hall, he isn't kicking goals at 80%> or slotting drop goals over. Think I said at the time I understood the logic of getting Dagger with the injury to Jowitt. Now we have the depth at FB to cover future absences and he's also shown he quite adept at 6.

That's the point Mash was making. We tried to get Dagger on loan and then to pay for him but the only way they let him go was to swap as they'd tried to get Hall before and we turned them down.

I felt like they took advantage but its worked out OK for us in the end.

Honestly, PT I posted this at the time of the deal and I still pretty much feel the same. Aside from the last sentence. As it's clear Dagger is more than cover for full back. Dagger can go onto win the man of Steel from here but for me the deal to get him at that moment in time was a poor one.


Dagger had a year left on his contract. Hall was contracted to 2024 with us. So you'd think logic would suggest we'd be crazy to accept a straight swap.

Hull KR have been after Hall for a significant period of time and they like him alot.

Hull KR are weak in the centres and have injuries. So it's s position they desperately need to strengthen.

I just don't get it. How can this be defended?

We might have multiple Centres at the club. But, 2 are in questionable form (lynne and Langi) and 1 is Gaskell.. The best Centre we had at the club was Hall. The player with the most potential at the club was probably Hall. But it's OK. We've now got full back cover for a few months!

But that wasn't the question.

Would you swap him back?

No I wouldn't.

But we are talking about hindsight. I still and always will feel the deal wasn't good for Wakefield Trinity at that moment in time. I'm sure you said "someone needs to give thier head a wobble" too.

But Hall is still a good player. Despite him not playing much for Hull KR. A bit like Dagger no?

No