So i get there is some negative comments about mash but while i dont and wont pretend know him closley i have had many a chat with him i have listend to him in training and in the dug out i have also spoken to lads who have previously trained and played under him and currently do so and all have nothing but good to say about him he whips the whip when needed but praisers when required.he gets the best out of players.its common knowledge my lad is an academy player and i would say he has had a very successful year and if you ask him why he will say its alot to do with mash so give him a chance we know he wont have a massive budget but he will go well...

Plus any body want to see hus style in action get to wigan on sunday hes a frand final to win

I can understand the reaction but he now needs supporting and judging on his team next year and how they perform.

I know a few things to be facts.

Nobody on this planet would work harder at making a success of the role. He’s literally the hardest worker in the room.

He’s a very good salesman he may not have the big name however he is very articulate and has the ability to get people to buy into him.

Nobody knows the club better from top to bottom.

Is it a risk? Yes.

Should we give him a chance? Absolutely, his first job will be appointing his fellow coaching team which could be as critical, if not more so than his appointment.

I can think of many coaches who have a knack of surrounding themselves with the right support staff, and had very good careers despite being limited as coaches, not that I’m saying Mash is by the way.

Think that is the main concern Will quality players want to come and play for Wakefield for a untried S L coach If you had the chance to play for M Applegarth or T Smith who would you want to play for .

It was obvious that this was agreed prior to any review or the quickest appointment. I know you are hoping that the club know best but to appoint our second assistant without even seeing who may want the job smacks of the usual modus operandi of cheap. I wonder how he will be able to sell the club to any quality players or will it be just those looking for a final pay packet coupled with those returning from long injury absence.
I hate to burst your bubble but we have offloaded most of this seasons squad and do you think he will boost season ticket sales. We know the club prefer those that agree with them so that may of helped his appointment.
I am not an accountant but the accounts submitted for the period ending Nov 2021 showed an increase of cash in hand of over £500,000 to just over £750,000 plus the stakeholders loans reduced by £80,000. I suppose there may be a reason for this but interesting none the less.

Well i think it’s a mistake but there you go. Good luck to him, i hope he proves me and many others wrong because we sure need him to.

I'm thinking you don't actually know if they talked to anyone else?

If it was so obvious then why didn't you point it out to those of us who did not see the obvious, also can you name the players we have offloaded, you really need to get rid of the bitterness that's eating you up, get down to a game next season and cheer yourself up

Good post Luppy....along with most others on here, I have to admit to being under-whelmed by his appointment, however, it's posts like yours (from someone who actually knows how he can perform) that partially help to alleviate some of my concerns. Obviously his ability to perform successfully will depend massively on the calibre of players being brought in and the way the retained players can adapt to playing with the new-comers, so Mash clearly has his work cut out from the get-go.
So for me, we all have to now get behind him and the rest of the new coaching team (whoever they may be) and just hope that we can hit the ground running come February

Oh it’s obvious is it. Everything is obvious after the event and you’re the expert at that.

For all we know it could be they had planned to get rid of WP prior to the end of season regardless of the late success, there were quite a few on here that weren't satisfied with him and maybe the board thought the same, has there been a statement from the club confirming his appointment ? or maybe somebody else is in line but just not yet finalised.

What you said were the players we let go that's why I asked you, there's a world of difference between the players we let go which I don't know of any, and those who were out of contract and were offered better terms at other clubs and also those retiring and going home, I can name you all of those players as I'm sure you can, but I believe you are guilty of implying it's the clubs fault in an effort to once again cast doubt on the competence of the club and it's dealings.

Well firstly I believe the only thing you will be looking forward to is the coach if it is Applegarth and the club falling on their face if it goes pear shaped, I personally have no insight to running the club neither do I suspect have you, and whether it's Applegarth or anybody else I've read it from Carter himself providing it's within the budget the coach is in charge of recruitment, unless you know different.

"The fans persuaded......"

You really do live in a world of your own.

And how have you seen the funds dry up. As far as I can see we've continued to recruit.
And although I was expecting something different, you have no idea what Mash is being paid or how much he is being given for recruitment so you dont know this is the cheap option.

So in summary......you don't know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0d09x5v JD interview with MA and JM Interesting!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0d09x5v JD interview with MA and JM Interesting!

I am pretty sure as a person who has performed numerous reviews that this will have been continuous since 12 months ago. A clue was given in the initial appointment of Willie that it would be subject to a review and an initial 12 month appointment. Willie brought in Cummins as his assistant almost immediately and Mash was also moved to assistant with responsibility for the Academy and reserves.

We had a few pre season signings by Willie that have not featured in the first team other than friendlies, we had signings that were questioned due to the position they played andfwhen they got a game we deemed not good enough not by the coaching staff but the supporters.

Start to the season was OK a few tight games that we lost, Warrington away were excellent performances both in the league and the Cup. Wigan at home in the Cup we payed 40 minutes and fell apart. We had a shocker against Leeds, the second half v Salford was one to forget. Salford away woeful. Toulouse away woeful staff blamed one player who was dropped. Toulouse at Magic terrible how the coach carried on with 2 at the marker when we were 1 man down and persisted it with it whilst tries were pouring in I will never know. Castleford at home poor. Hull KR away another to forget against a weakened team.

Pluses post Hull KR we put a run together the defence got sorted and we built some confidence with some great performances however sadly not enough and too late. The club was basically Championship bound until then.

Over the season 5 out of 10 not good enough and the appointment of Cummins as the assistant for defence was the wrong one and in my opinion.

Mitigation

Injuries Bill, TJ (Salford game and beyond) Lyn, Kershaw Pitts, Dave out for a few weeks, Kaye.

Positives

Corey Hall great signing, Murphy got a break through due to injuries, Bowes (thought he could have had more game time though when Hood was injured.

I could go on but get the gist this took me the time to write it there will be lots more positive and negative.