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| Come on Luton Dreadnought explain this
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| Agents will always be banding players names about and touting for a better deal for their player which in turn gives them a better cut ,if the rumours are to be believed and Kasiano was on €250,000 plus well we simply can’t compete on those terms . As far as we all know we may have been offered these players before Warrington but we simply can’t and shouldn’t compete in a bidding war which I feel is what we may have been used for . We have the players to get us out of this hole right here without anyone else coming in ,we’ve proved it this season when they get their heads right they can play good open rugby .we may not be looking at season end play offs but we are far better than we are showing at present and can and should be competitive with the teams in the bottom half of the table . I feel it’s confidence and mentality problems rather than just being physically beaten
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Fringe Player | 9 | No Team Selected |
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Again explain where the money is to come from.
You make Boris look honest at least occasionally he answers a question.
So AGAIN explain to me where the money Is to come from.
I won’t lose any sleep because you are simply full of it.'"
So you know personally about the club’s finances so why don’t you enlighten us how bad they are or are you just doing what you have been told but don’t know it to be fact.'"
What do you know about the clubs finances then?
There aren't that many that they do.
But very soon a loan repayment will kick in, and impact the clubs finances.
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| I never claimed to know anything about the club’s finances except what I keep reading on here about how bad they are from those that also don’t know.
I guess the loan is the ground, which begs the question if we are in this state now it’s not looking good for the future.
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| If the club Cannot compete in SL perhaps we should accept the reality that our level is the championship maybe MC and JM already know this.
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| Quote: Roverman1 "If the club Cannot compete in SL perhaps we should accept the reality that our level is the championship maybe MC and JM already know this.'"
I don’t accept that!
Things can be done differently, obviously a revamped stadium would help but things have gone a bit silent on that front.
A different strategy regards recruitment to improve the quality of the squad albeit a smaller squad but robust enough to withstand a few injuries.
A more open attitude toward shared ownership via new investors and Directors
Increased activity around sponsorship
And finally the accountants nightmare, a dirty, filthy word amongst their community Marketing
I doubt or at least hope you’re not right about our BoD giving up on SL status but if they have they need to be transparent about it and look to sell their stake to someone before they condemn the club to certain relegation.
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First Team Player | 2025 | No Team Selected |
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| Quote: Roverman1 "If the club Cannot compete in SL perhaps we should accept the reality that our level is the championship maybe MC and JM already know this.'"
Then why bother with doing owt to ground
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| I don't like the idea of the championship but the club is struggling every year to maintain its super league status so are we a SL club or not.
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| Quote: The Avenger "They’ve signed 4, FOUR prop forwards and we couldn’t find one!
It’s not always down to money either, sometimes it’s timing and having your ear close enough to the ground to know who’s potentially going to become available, we seem to be incapable of identifying anyone other than when an agent tries to push deadwood in our direction. We’ve apparently been looking for a year or so, well whose looking, what are they doing to find players who might join us or are they just waiting for a club to contact us with someone they want to offload.
You need to read the whole post, I’ve clearly stated that I’ll give Butler time to show us what he can do but at the same time he’s not a totally unknown quantity is he and his career so far doesn’t inspire, but as I wrote earlier let’s see.'"
Players are out of contract this is made aware to all clubs in the final year of their deals by both the RFL and the agents.
It’s not a big secret.
Lists are distributed to clubs regularly through the season too about who is available.
Simply fact is we cannot compete financially with most clubs if they want the player.
It’s nothing to do with identifying them, we sadly have to deal with the scraps we are thrown and try mould them into a team capable of competing or more realistically surviving in SL.
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| Quote: Roverman1 "I don't like the idea of the championship but the club is struggling every year to maintain its super league status so are we a SL club or not.'"
I've come to the same conclusion. 23 years and most of those we've been towards the bottom. We've certainly not progressed on the field despite some relatively good seasons. Our revenue does not support a SL team and sadly that seems to be coming to bite us this season.
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| Quote: jonh "Players are out of contract this is made aware to all clubs in the final year of their deals by both the RFL and the agents.
It’s not a big secret.
Lists are distributed to clubs regularly through the season too about who is available.
Simply fact is we cannot compete financially with most clubs if they want the player.
It’s nothing to do with identifying them, we sadly have to deal with the scraps we are thrown and try mould them into a team capable of competing or more realistically surviving in SL.'"
That is not a sustainable business plan for any company certainly not one in the entertainment business during a cost of living crisis. We don’t even help ourselves by marketing the game or trying to generate some positive news. We have probably one of the highest match day tickets and I dread to think what we charge for a pint compared to a pub away from the ground. If you look at the Wakefield Trinity app it contents mainly reflect the ladies team which is fine but the first team news should take precedence.
The bad news of course is that these appear to be the good times before we start to repay a loan which I guess will be part funded by a reduced wage bill.
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| Prop.
Can anyone show Rob Butler’s match stats and compare them with DF?
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| Quote: jonh "Players are out of contract this is made aware to all clubs in the final year of their deals by both the RFL and the agents.
It’s not a big secret.
Lists are distributed to clubs regularly through the season too about who is available.
Simply fact is we cannot compete financially with most clubs if they want the player.
It’s nothing to do with identifying them, we sadly have to deal with the scraps we are thrown and try mould them into a team capable of competing or more realistically surviving in SL.'"
Thanks John, I know exactly how it works and while what you’ve said is correct it’s not the whole story of how players are identified or how clubs move on unwanted players.
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| Quote: Roverman1 "I don't like the idea of the championship but the club is struggling every year to maintain its super league status so are we a SL club or not.'"
Out of curiosity, when did Ken Davy take over at Huddersfield.
They were relegated in 2001, and came back much stronger.
I know he's ban rolled them, but I wouldn't say that happened too much in the early years of them returning to super league.
If one thing, it would be a good way to get rid of the dead wood, and re build, both potentially on and off the pitch.
The main problem, is, would we have the finances, to strengthen, when needed
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| What is it about us helping out Powell? We sign Butler so he can sign Amor and that chap from Wests.
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