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| Quote: PopTart "Me too.
I hope fans that turn up next week really get behind the team, no matter what, right to the final whistle.'"
Same here .... but I really wanted Chester to come out “ fighting” a bit more after the game Friday . We did fantastic esp in defence and yet he was just so downbeat ! He was depressing me so I don’t know how the players are feeling . Phil Clarke spoke more enthusiastic about us . Drop the victim , we all know the situation and condemn the idiots that have abused him .. but we need lifting to fight the next few games !!!
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| Quote: Teltry "I'm hearing a few clubs are chasing Joe Westerman now. Another one of Mr. Chester's rubbish signings eh'"
Indeed. Obviously all these good performances are to do with the previous coaches.
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| I've been a critic of CC but in all honesty, I really don't think there's a coach in SL who could have done more this season, with the players we have available.
We may have good strength in most of the squad, but unfortunately we've had to dig deeper and get loan players, and some coming in are, IMO just not good enough.
I really don't know where we go from here other than hope we get players back AND they hit some form.
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| Quote: cocker "Same here .... but I really wanted Chester to come out “ fighting” a bit more after the game Friday . We did fantastic esp in defence and yet he was just so downbeat ! He was depressing me so I don’t know how the players are feeling . Phil Clarke spoke more enthusiastic about us . Drop the victim , we all know the situation and condemn the idiots that have abused him .. but we need lifting to fight the next few games !!!'"
Totally agree.
Whatever the circumstances behind the scenes, there has to be some positivity.
First of all to keep the fans interested but also, to enthuse people to want to be associated with the club, from staff, to sponsors and anyone else connected with the club.
There ARE plenty of games for Trinity to make something from the season and right now, the minimum target should be to improve on last seasons 10th place finish in the league, which is certainly possible.
And yes, our defence was awesome on Friday, the best it has been all season.
If defence wins games, we must be getting closer.
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| Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "Disappointing that we persist with a 2nd rower at prop when we have 3 props on the bench.'"
My thoughts exactly. I also read that, we had Ashurst filling in at hooker, but yet Eaves was on the pitch.
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| Quote: Travelling Wilbury "My thoughts exactly. I also read that, we had Ashurst filling in at hooker, but yet Eaves was on the pitch.'"
Nope. Eaves had gone off because he spent about 65 minutes on the pitch due to Crowther picking up an injury in the first 5 minutes.
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| Quote: Willzay "Nope. Eaves had gone off because he spent about 65 minutes on the pitch due to Crowther picking up an injury in the first 5 minutes.'"
No no. He read it somewhere. Why do you persist in believing your own eyes.
And I'd say much as I like Kelepi out wide, we needed help in the middle against their big pack.
Our second row was fine without him. So I'd say it worked.
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| Quote: PopTart "…nothing about that loss was because of Chester.'"
I think you are being very generous here, and not one of the more balanced of comments we are used to reading from you.
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| You do realise that this was a Leeds team that by their low standards this season were there for the taken by an half decent team. Why are we playing a second row and loose forward at prop because we did not sign the Wigan loanee and let another return to Halifax based on the possibility of signing Fifita despite the many uncertainties.
We play Hull KR at home next a game considered by many to be a must win. I hope we do but because we need it for everyone involved with the club. The problem is that we cannot attract suitable players to improve the squad therefore we need to change what the current team produce on the field. It does not take a genius to work out that we cannot make yards from our line, our kicking game is pretty abysmal and we are clueless near the oppositions line. These are not new problems and the buck must stop with Chester because he has not been able to rectify any of these except in the rare game.
I know some of you want to find any positive in his coaching but the bottom line is now 9 wins out of 46. I admire the fact that Westerman backs him but not enough to hang around next season apparently.
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| Quote: PopTart "No no. He read it somewhere. Why do you persist in believing your own eyes.
And I'd say much as I like Kelepi out wide, we needed help in the middle against their big pack.
Our second row was fine without him. So I'd say it worked.'"
So you wouldn't have Tanginoa running wide at the backs and nullify his power by carting it up the middle? Chris Green isn't small.
If you think 'it works' playing Tanginoa at prop, it obviously doesn't.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "You do realise that this was a Leeds team that by their low standards this season were there for the taken by an half decent team. Why are we playing a second row and loose forward at prop because we did not sign the Wigan loanee and let another return to Halifax based on the possibility of signing Fifita despite the many uncertainties.
We play Hull KR at home next a game considered by many to be a must win. I hope we do but because we need it for everyone involved with the club. The problem is that we cannot attract suitable players to improve the squad therefore we need to change what the current team produce on the field. It does not take a genius to work out that we cannot make yards from our line, our kicking game is pretty abysmal and we are clueless near the oppositions line. These are not new problems and the buck must stop with Chester because he has not been able to rectify any of these except in the rare game.
I know some of you want to find any positive in his coaching but the bottom line is now 9 wins out of 46. I admire the fact that Westerman backs him but not enough to hang around next season apparently.'"
Agree 100 %
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| Quote: BackSeatCoach "I think you are being very generous here, and not one of the more balanced of comments we are used to reading from you.'"
That's fair. I'll explain what I mean.
The tactics on the whole worked.
We played platers who could go the distance as our bigger players were dominated last year.
We took the option for two when we had opportunities
Our defense has improved tremendously, especially on the line.
Two players signed to plug gaps played well.
Playing Max at 6 worked as best it could but was clearly the best option.
The players played in a positive way and Westerman said great things about the coaching team.
The things that went wrong was 2 missed kicks, a wild pass under the posts and decision out of our control.
So I think it showed lots of things the coaching team got right but unfortunately it still didn't quite go our way.
The people still moaning about Chester are not necessarily wrong, but are so negative, they just repeat the same line no matter what happens.
I personally watched that game and came away disappointed but more positive than I was before.
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| All the daft mistakes, so very frustrating.
3 unforced errors by Lino in the first half alone. 2 errors at the play the ball by I think Green and Battye. Kelepi's forward pass and then conceding a penalty when in possession of the ball.
What on earth was that pass from Arona at the end?
Leeds were abysmal but managed to win.
Its not for a lack of effort, but things like not been able to pick up a ball at acting half is a crime.
As for Jowitt and his contract, the writing was on the wall when MC said full back is a priority signing even though we have 3 of them on the books.
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| Quote: Trinity1964 "Regarding the fans at Belle Vue being hostile, when reading Keith Seniors autobiography he referred to playing at Wakefield as the cauldron of hate.'"
It's different if we're playing Leeds
Having said that, the ground is quite tight and the players can hear the crowd, no question and in that context, maybe BV is quite hostile.
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| Every job or career has a shelf life, we have all had jobs throughout our life when for one reason or another we move on, those who have had one job there entire life feels like a rarity now days. I believe Chester has taken this team as far as he can, and I for one feel very worried about the prospect of us going down. Any coach that takes the role will obviously not have the funds most teams have put fresh ideas regarding recruitment and overall structures might be what we need. No body (I hope) wants to see anyone out of work, with a family and mortgage etc, but in sports that’s the risks you take , I’m sure Chester will know this full well. In retrospect what money will Agar have at his disposal compared to us, and they are churning out that garbage, just shows how coaching can effect your team positively and negatively no matter what money they have at their clubs.
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