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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"Don't remember that at all and how would he remove a S106? the plans were rubber stamped by the Secretary of State, the problems all along were to do with trigger points and then the Council allowing a separate application that didn't count to any trigger point in that Newcold. Can't remember if Walker knew about that and didn't tell the other Trust members but relationships broke down because Walker got discovered having meetings with the Council and the Developer without inviting other Trust Members to attend. So the Board resolved that no meetings could take place without there being at least two Trust Members present. That came to a head in February 2017 when Rodney announced that he would resign(pushed) from the Trust and that he was in the process of establishing another Trust with 4 new Trustees which would deliver the community stadium rather than the Wakefield & District Community Trust. So it all ended in tears between RW and the rest of the trust guys and the Club, so MC etc knows exactly what he did and knows full well what he's about, both bad and good. ATM we're just selling their shirts.'"
As I rember it RW was having meetings on his own with the council/planners, he was involved with the 106 (which guaranteed the ground being built subject to trigger points being hit) agreement being circumvented meaning Newcold got their massive fridge without any trigger points attached.
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| Quote JINJER="JINJER"As I rember it RW was having meetings on his own with the council/planners, he was involved with the 106 (which guaranteed the ground being built subject to trigger points being hit) agreement being circumvented meaning Newcold got their massive fridge without any trigger points attached.'"
Yeah same as me, don't know if you read it JINJ, as I said above
Quote JINJERbut relationships broke down because Walker got discovered having meetings with the Council and the Developer without inviting other Trust Members to attend.'"
Quote JINJERhe problems all along were to do with trigger points and then the Council allowing a separate application that didn't count to any trigger point in that Newcold. Can't remember if Walker knew about that and didn't tell the other Trust members '"
Tbh though as far as the S106 trigger points, the Council or the SoS could have seen that was an area for abuse by a dodgy developer a mile away and should have seen it; plus it was WMDC that agreed to the planning of the Newcold - they had the authority to put a stop to the shenanigans ages ago but didn't.
slightly O/T but i saw something I'd completely forgotten about when I was just looking up how it came to an end with RW and the Trust - RW bought jimmy bloody Saville's holiday home in Scarborough for him to take the grand kids to on holiday, he can do what he wants with his money but a bit weird & creepy all around.
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| Quote Kettykat="Kettykat"That line is completely true when I see what money goes into my grandkids amateur football club and what they can tap into ,whereas my grandkids RL club is worlds away in terms of monies available .
Not a clue about the football that’s played above these levels but would have thought it would have gone up pro rata'"
Er, in your initial post, you said at [ievery[/i level - which would include the leagues that I mentioned.
The joke in lower league/national league level of football is how do you turn your £20m pot into £5m pot?
Buy a lower league/national league /NLN/NLS football club.
That was the point I was trying to make.
It happens at that level - so [iobviously[/i will happen at even [ilower[/i levels in the pyramid.
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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"Yeah same as me, don't know if you read it JINJ, as I said above
Tbh though as far as the S106 trigger points, the Council or the SoS could have seen that was an area for abuse by a dodgy developer a mile away and should have seen it; plus it was WMDC that agreed to the planning of the Newcold - they had the authority to put a stop to the shenanigans ages ago but didn't.
slightly O/T but i saw something I'd completely forgotten about when I was just looking up how it came to an end with RW and the Trust - RW bought jimmy bloody Saville's holiday home in Scarborough for him to take the grand kids to on holiday, he can do what he wants with his money but a bit weird & creepy all around.'"
Didn't see that Shifty, could have saved myself typing.....
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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"Yeah same as me, don't know if you read it JINJ, as I said above
Tbh though as far as the S106 trigger points, the Council or the SoS could have seen that was an area for abuse by a dodgy developer a mile away and should have seen it; plus it was WMDC that agreed to the planning of the Newcold - they had the authority to put a stop to the shenanigans ages ago but didn't.
slightly O/T but i saw something I'd completely forgotten about when I was just looking up how it came to an end with RW and the Trust - =#FF0000RW bought jimmy bloody Saville's holiday home in Scarborough for him to take the grand kids to on holiday, he can do what he wants with his money but a bit weird & creepy all around.'"
Did he buy it or was he left it in the will as some say.
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| Quote newgroundb4wakey="newgroundb4wakey"
Did he buy it or was he left it in the will as some say.'"
LOL Dunno mate, how would I know  read about it online but he said competition was fierce to buy it when it all came out he was a wrong 'un and he'd died well before that. He says he was in the process of the buying it before the world found out he was a monster. Also he bought it because he's owned a flat in the same block for 30 odd years and needs more space  . No wonder though silly rumors start like that and also RW's association with the NSPCC.
[urlhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-scarborough-flat-bought-1787149[/url
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| Quote Wakefield City="Wakefield City"The Wakefield FC home kit looks well and I’ve always wanted a football club representing our City. If they help get Belle Vue redeveloped via access to grants unavailable to Trinity all the better.'"
Bulls fan in peace. I'm not 100% on the criteria for the grants for football, but locally Bradford Park Avenue (they play in national league North) have just had to purchase the lease from Bradford Council in order to get access to grant money to develop facilities at Horsfall stadium. They couldn't get it while the lease belonged to the council. As part of the development they are wanting to also put in a 3g pitch that would have a crash mat underneath so rugby could also be played there along with football 7 days a week for the community, but they can't use the football grant money to fund it due to it also having a benefit for rugby.
I would imagine if any football grants were to be used to develop BV then the football club would have to have a significant percentage of ownership.
Anyway MC will have studied every avenue available to Wakey, and will have outlined every pro/con. Whatever he decides will be best for Wakefield and I doubt you'll lose out.
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| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"Bulls fan in peace. I'm not 100% on the criteria for the grants for football, but locally Bradford Park Avenue (they play in national league North) have just had to purchase the lease from Bradford Council in order to get access to grant money to develop facilities at Horsfall stadium. They couldn't get it while the lease belonged to the council. As part of the development they are wanting to also put in a 3g pitch that would have a crash mat underneath so rugby could also be played there along with football 7 days a week for the community, but they can't use the football grant money to fund it due to it also having a benefit for rugby.
I would imagine if any football grants were to be used to develop BV then the football club would have to have a significant percentage of ownership.
Anyway MC will have studied every avenue available to Wakey, and will have outlined every pro/con. Whatever he decides will be best for Wakefield and I doubt you'll lose out.'"
I suppose if they are all part Wakefield Trinity Sports Ltd, then there perhaps is your get in, ie the RL club is the owner of the football team. Who knows I'm just guessing.
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| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"Bulls fan in peace. I'm not 100% on the criteria for the grants for football, but locally Bradford Park Avenue (they play in national league North) have just had to purchase the lease from Bradford Council in order to get access to grant money to develop facilities at Horsfall stadium. They couldn't get it while the lease belonged to the council. As part of the development they are wanting to also put in a 3g pitch that would have a crash mat underneath so rugby could also be played there along with football 7 days a week for the community, but they can't use the football grant money to fund it due to it also having a benefit for rugby.
I would imagine if any football grants were to be used to develop BV then the football club would have to have a significant percentage of ownership.
Anyway MC will have studied every avenue available to Wakey, and will have outlined every pro/con. Whatever he decides will be best for Wakefield and I doubt you'll lose out.'"
Just to add another possible complication to accessing football grants, I believe the redevelopment of Belle Vue will lead to it being classed a community stadium. Therefore possible funding from sports England or lottery funding. I’m no expert, but all things are possible.
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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"LOL Dunno mate, how would I know
read about it online but he said competition was fierce to buy it when it all came out he was a wrong 'un and he'd died well before that. He says he was in the process of the buying it before the world found out he was a monster. Also he bought it because he's owned a flat in the same block for 30 odd years and needs more space
. No wonder though silly rumors start like that and also RW's association with the NSPCC.
[urlhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-scarborough-flat-bought-1787149[/url'"
I suppose we'll never know for sure. Its just that I have a big group of friends from Scalby (just north of Scarborough) and its those that have very deep suspicions.
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| Quote newgroundb4wakey="newgroundb4wakey"I suppose we'll never know for sure. Its just that I have a big group of friends from Scalby (just north of Scarborough) and its those that have very deep suspicions.'"
I’m sure that you could easily find out if a property was purchased or left to somebody in a will, rather than slander them on a public forum.
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| From the the recent interviews it looks like the new East Stand plans should be available very soon. Heard work to start next year but surely that would have to be at the end of the season unless there’s a workaround for the old East Stand.
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