How I see it, the stadium aspect is completely seen by the wider public as a stadium for Trinity alone. We've lost that battle. That element of the UU would be the hardest to get people on board with so if by some miracle that's comes off and is financially viable then I would push for that initially.

Once built I would then go after the community facilities as this would have much greater sway on the wider populations general radar. The council can't then just say it's the club wanting something for free, they can't hide behind anyone else. They will have been complicit in aiding a private developer, and I speak as someone who works for one of them, to hoodwink the rate payer for the benefit of a few individuals.

That is a much greater headline for the media to latch onto.

Well seeing as I have had my name mentioned on the odd post, I may as well give my own opinions as to how I see all this playing out.

Lets look at the facts of this latest press release first of all.
It talks about a refurbished Belle Vue and we can only assume it will be along the lines of those drawings we have seen. It also talks about this being in place for 2020. So by my reckoning we have one more season at BV and in that time all the planning processes, costings, tenders etc will need to be done.
The sheer size of the project and the difficulties of the site would mean it would be impossible to continue to play there so Its sensible to assume 2019 will have to be a season where we are 'on the road' so the works can take place.
2020 its all done and dusted and we are in a revamped BV.
I don't know what people think but I find it hard to believe that will all happen. So that in itself makes me suspicious about the intentions of those involved.

Secondly ,all this will not be done for free. £10m is a conservative estimate, so where will the money come from?
I am lead to believe the council will allow Yorkcourt to build housing on the remaining land at NM which was originally earmarked for the stadium and ancilliary sports facililities (So that answers Jinjers question they will never happen)
When yorkcourt get their planning do any of you honestly believe they will pay up ! The council will again happily wash their hands of all responsibility. They would sooner see a developer make millions rather than one penny go to Trinity.

88G will also be expected to contribute. They will do this due to a large carrot the council are dangling in front of them. They are being offered a fantastic development opportunity on a prime site elsewhere in Wakefield. That's why they do everything the council ask of them. I am not saying they will also renege on their responsibilities but if they did I am sure the council would again wash their hands and step back and suggest its nothing more than a deal between trinity and a developer that's gone wrong and not their concern.
Plenty of you out there have been around long enough and are starting to know all the parties concerned. Just sit back ,look at the hard facts, use a dose of reality and draw your own conclusions.

Mine are this, as long as Peter Box is running WMDC Wakefield Trinity will not get a penny.

I’m not sure I’ve reada quote from anyone saying the owners had a loaded gun pointed at them, maybe I’ve forgotten it or missed it completely.

Im in total agreement with you regarding the community sports facilities and it’s been a regular question of mine on this and other platforms.

I questioned it on here after lots of statements from the club saying “we just want what was promised by the developer in return for the green belt land he received”.

It looked from the onset of the new Belle Vue proposal that everyone was happy with Just a stadium which is why I questioned it. I was told at the time that the wider community sports facilities would still be built at Newmarket. Well if they’re not then under the “we just want what was promised” mantra I expect the club and the Trust to continue until they are!

Been to Belle Vue have I Vastman ?
Saw my first match there in 1955 !
Got my season ticket for 2018.
Yes I do prioritise a new stadium before anything else.
Before I bloody die.
If there is a case for pursuing the council et al if community facilities are not realised then let the appropriate bodies do so.
But why end up with nothing at all ?
As for the general public , they have not got a clue about stadium for Trinity entwined with community facilities.

No you havn't missed it. I worded it wrongly.my fault
Your quote was made in good faith and it gives the impression that all parties are now back into discussion mode. Sometimes people may seem to be making agreements of their own free choice but the reality may be different.

It is what it is, to be honest Newmarket was hardly a sports village although it should have been. We have a lacklustre inept council and if we end up with new Belle Vue as per plans and us and the next generation can support our Cities only pro sports club I will be happy.

Up the Trin

Beagle not getting at you in anyway. I would describe my connections with this club as very similar to yourself.
However just one point, who do you think the appropriate bodies are that will pursue the council to make them deliver what was promised at Newmarket.
The council or should I say Box, has no intention of delivering anything. Forget Newmarket and forget a community facility at Belle Vue. He knows full well no one will pursue him and the fantasy appropriate bodies do not exist. If they did he would never have dared to do his blatant diabolical trick of putting Newcold outside the trigger point.

Everytime anyone thinks about this whole affair they only need to say one word that sums up how these scumbags work and that's NEWCOLD.

There's my post what seems to have offended you not sure why, is there any need for the the smart mouth sarcasm btw.

I think I've read all this thread but don't recall seeing any response from the trust!
Are they happy with the present agreement?
Only when they are will I be!

OK I get your point and I do actually sympathise but you can't just ignore the wider issue here.

As I say I don't blame the club, they do what is best for the club.

However there is a wider issue here that simply can't be ignored. If we get this stadium this way it cannot be denied that we got it on the fiddle. Not us directly but we as WMDC ratepayers are complcit in defrauding other ratepayers however well meaning we may be.

If it's this or nothing we should take it - however we must carry on persuing the Council to fullfill it's obligation. Something that will unfortunately be much harder if the stadium element is removed.

Sorry but from someone involved from the start it will be a slightly hollow victory even though I accept it is a victory. Knowing the Trust members as I do it won't sit well with some of them though to alay your fears I'm sure they will be pragmatic about this.

There isn't one but you have to remember that the Clubs agenda and the Trusts agenda are not identical.

The club supports the idea of NM first as far as I'm aware especially the community element. However they are first and foremost a bussiness and as such will put the club first.

The Trust has a much wider agenda and has to take far more into account - so you may be waiting a while for a response I suspect.