Thought Ryan was either a prop/second row? Why didn't he start at prop with his experience there instead of Walshaw?

Needed our strongest possible pack to start and should have realised Wigan would throw everything at us first half. Never mind onwards to the big pack of Les Cats who are desperate for a win also.

Played majority of his games in the NRL at backrow. You'd think of his size he would be a prop but some imports who comes over are classed as utility forwards find out its alot tougher over here when played front row for ex. Mitch Achurch.

I totally agree though it gives me no pleasure at all to be witnessing another Wakefield massive error of judgement. The best investment we could have made during the break was to pay his last year off. I am utterly at a loss to see what on earth posessed the club to offer him another 3 years. 7 match winning run.. big deal. Another 50+ games of utter ineptitude, excuses, facial grimaces on sky sports games that drive me mad, platitudes about great team spirit...but disjointed, disorganised performances on the field that leave you feeling there is no real plan or hope..just the same old rubbish. I didn't go today. The result could have been worse I suppose but pretty poor all the same. 3 years is more than we can probably afford to rid ourselves of this blight on our hope. You idiots for giving him that contract is all I can say

And we watched how Hull played against us in the year before we appointed him with our weakest team in seasons..and we still gave him a job!

If only we could leave him there..permananetnly

3 games in...Richard Agar should have been sacked at the end of last season. The performances were largely abysmal last season. I'm sory, Stop signing players we probably can't affod and get rid of Agar. We will stand a better chance

Francis Cummins maybe?

On the upside;

Tautai had his best game in the RW&B by quite some margin - if he plays like that every week, happy days.

Sammut showed what he can do and it was great to see him making breaks - and credit to Foxy for going with him in support; if we get used to doing that, he'll create a few more. Plus he kicked goals from all over the park.

Godinet looked enterprising at times - just needs to be more decisive; a couple of times he looked in two minds and ended up doing nothing. Great interception though (again - obviously a speciality) and some good attempts near the line; if that short ball had stuck for Smith, it was a certain try.

Reece Lyne (bear with me) - absolutely blistering pace down the wing to score; if he can find a way to get out of the 'avoid a mistake' style of play he seems to prefer and learn to back himself, he could still make an impact.

Daniel Smith - a really impactful young forward; could be looking at another Amor if he continues to develop.

Jordy Crowther - a great debut; took his opportunity well and did not let himself down in any way. One to watch.

I'm not excusing the team performance, which was poor, but it's important to acknowledge that it wasn't all bad; there were some individuals worthy of praise. With Raleigh, Anderson and Collis back in the mix and Scruton added in, we've got the ability.

Attitude however looked poor from some people who should know better; I'd like to see our players fighting harder to get up from the floor when attacking and in defence, do some of the things that other teams do to us in week in week out to slow the ptb down; we don't seem to have much gamesmanship in us and whilst I don't advocate cheating, it is a bit like an arms race - for example, how many times did Wigan flirt with obstruction yesterday by having men in the line - but only get pinged for it once? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em?

Thanks for that reasoned assessment Bren.
I too think that Lynne has got something ......remember the try against Saints.

I think Smith played with no break in first half didn't he? And some of second half.
Can't fault his effort there.

The problem with last paragraph is that we are clearly not good at that and give penalties away. That's the one area we can't afford to make worse

I agree - which is why I'm advocating getting better at it!

Point well made

Now he's bulked up a bit he can certainly break the odd tackle. he's got pace he just doesn't back himself out wide enough. When he has he's looked a prospect. Cut out the mistakes add confidence and belief and he could be a decent winger.

Unless you can give him a heart he'll never make a decent winger