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| Well so far Carter has been honest and we will be selling a couple of more players but Im told Warrington and Leeds will be letting us have some players on loan for next season if that happens.It might not be the end of the club if they let us have a few good players and we will owe them both a massive thank you.
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| Quote: bren2k "To Eric France? Oh wait...'"
You say that Bren but didn't the actual Eric France hand over the company to his son in the late 90's do wasn't part of the bankrupsy. I'm sure I was told that. Could he do a personal loan to the club??
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| Quote: Mable_Syrup "You say that Bren but didn't the actual Eric France hand over the company to his son in the late 90's do wasn't part of the bankrupsy. I'm sure I was told that. Could he do a personal loan to the club??'"
As far as I understand it, both are involved in an absolutely ginormous unpaid VAT bill; sufficient amounts to make your eyes water.
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| Seems like we're not the only club who's new owners spent more than what they had. Bulls issued a winding up order now. They've done it in a year less than us which is truly remarkable! Maybe we need to heap praise on ag and je for lasting so long! In all seriousness the games in a sorry state financially. It's only the sugar daddy clubs who can survive and be successful (Leeds apart). The rest of us just seem to struggle from crisis to crisis
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| Quote: les-goose "Well so far Carter has been honest and we will be selling a couple of more players but Im told Warrington and Leeds will be letting us have some players on loan for next season if that happens.It might not be the end of the club if they let us have a few good players and we will owe them both a massive thank you.'"
Me being the cynic I am: Warrington have lost Morley/Carvell/Cooper and require a prop, Leeds needing a hooker - just a coincidence and nothing to do with largesse?
If they are genuine offers without strings, they just want game time for fringe players, I will apologise, but...
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| It would be a shame but that's where we are I'm afraid.
Would be great to keep them, and even though Aiton is one of my favourite players I'd let him go before Amor.
But if I were a Leeds fan, I'd prefer to stick with their own youth prospects rather than going for overseas players.
We are not short of hookers in this country. It's Stand offs and centres we find hard to produce
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| Quote: PopTart "We are not short of hookers in this country. It's Stand offs and centres we find hard to produce'"
Is that really the case, or are we just too risk-averse when it comes to filling these key positions, preferring what is considered to be the safe overseas option over our own young players? We may yet find that the necessity of now giving the likes of young Bobby Goulding a run in the team pays great dividends in the future. Just a thought.
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| Quote: bren2k "To trinity - I'm not suggesting that it's the only cause of our woes - far from it - but it can't have helped. Maybe we would have done something a bit more modest if we'd known the RFL would 'forget' about that requirement a few short months later?'"
I know, I just find it a bit rich of the club to moan about that when Belle Vue has been a dump for decades and has needed work doing to it. To be honest, I'm sure I posted at the time asking about the point if we were so confident on moving into a new ground anyway.
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| Quote: bren2k "As far as I understand it, both are involved in an absolutely ginormous unpaid VAT bill; sufficient amounts to make your eyes water.'"
I thought that too but Trinity Metals is opening soon and it will be very interesting to see who owns that company so as they say watch this space.
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| Quote: Uptoncat "Seems like we're not the only club who's new owners spent more than what they had. Bulls issued a winding up order now. They've done it in a year less than us which is truly remarkable! Maybe we need to heap praise on ag and je for lasting so long! In all seriousness the games in a sorry state financially. It's only the sugar daddy clubs who can survive and be successful (Leeds apart). The rest of us just seem to struggle from crisis to crisis'"
You are right of course but don't forget its not that long ago Leeds were in trouble and bailed out by Paul Caddick.
I understand that there are only 2 Super League Clubs that "make money" and I guess Leeds are one of them and maybe Wigan the other. Both however have the security of Sugar Daddies. I'm also led to believe that Ken Davy puts in around £2m a year into Huddersfield. Saints are heavily in debt but as the debt is in the form of Director's Loans and not a problem unless the loans are called in but that tends to be unlikely as they are fans themselves.
Clubs like us without a Sugar Daddy will always have it hard. Does anyone know any Sugar Daddies ?
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| Quote: RebelRebel "Is that really the case, or are we just too risk-averse when it comes to filling these key positions, preferring what is considered to be the safe overseas option over our own young players? We may yet find that the necessity of now giving the likes of young Bobby Goulding a run in the team pays great dividends in the future. Just a thought.'"
I agree with you. That's not really what I meant.
From a Super League point of view, the teams have lots of hookers around that Leeds could go for before they need to go for Aiton as an overseas player, including their own kids.
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| Mr Carter sed in his interview that Paul Aiton is on a really good deal and is real value for money!
We need more like him?
I hope he wouldn't be sold!
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| It seems to me upon reflection that Big Ted did a fine job keeping Wakey afloat for all those years
js
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| Quote: Topcat13 "Mr Carter sed in his interview that Paul Aiton is on a really good deal and is real value for money!
We need more like him?
I hope he wouldn't be sold!'"
Which is good but I wish he hadn't broadcast it to the world. Cue a couple of offers thatc greatly increase his income and all of a sudden he is 'unsettled'.
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| Quote: Walrus "It seems to me upon reflection that Big Ted did a fine job keeping Wakey afloat for all those years
js'"
Yes, but he had the luxury of selling off the crown jewels in order to keep the club afloat, whereas AG has just dipped into his piggy bank time & time again.
I’ve no idea what AG is worth but if I had about £5m stashed & I blew £1.5m in a couple of years I would have to call time on my philanthropy. If on the other hand I was worth say £100m, it wouldn’t be a problem.
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