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Quote: TRT "Hear hear! Let sgo and beat St Helens tomorrow!'"

Stranger things have happened!

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Quote: TRT "I think you and I know it has been more than just that.'"


I think he's a top bloke, so maybe I read his posts differently to you. I don't doubt his love for the club, though. It's always different when it's words on a message board or face to face.

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Quote: RebelRebel "I think he's a top bloke, so maybe I read his posts differently to you. I don't doubt his love for the club, though. It's always different when it's words on a message board or face to face.'"

Dont know him and dont doubt that he is.The hysteria on here just seems to have gone way over the top!

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Quote: TRT "Dont know him and dont doubt that he is.The hysteria on here just seems to have gone way over the top!'"


I agree, but "t'was ever thus".
It's a shame the posters I used to enjoy have by and large left, but it's only a forum after all. I'm still free to ignore it, which I do most of the time now.

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Quote: Theboyem "Did you see the word correct as well or was it selective vision?

A £1.2 million first year loss, three winding up orders and a double figure amount of ccj's in the last 12 months tells everyone something is wrong somewhere. And the other stories that are going round from well connected people are reason to be worried. Its not about points scoring, its not about gloating, its about wanting to know what the hell is going on with OUR club AGAIN.'"


Like it or not, this is not "OUR" club as the fans voted with their closed wallets when Ted asked for the bailout ahead of going into Administration. The club is a PRIVATE company who we can choose to buy tickets & merchandise from or not.

I'm sure it's not slipped anyone's attention that the whole country has been facing financial difficulties over the last few years, so is it really that surprising that one of the lesser teams (let's face it - that's what we have been in recent years) in the top flight of what is (at best) the fourth most popular sport in the country has had some financial difficulties of its own over the same period?

Of course we'd all like to know the TRUE details about the day-to-day business at Belle Vue, but none of us (except Daddycool icon_wink.gif ) actually have the RIGHT to know these things.

If anyone feels they can run the club better, then I'm sure AG would be happy to listen to their offer for his shares if they have the cash to back up their aspirations. If they don't then the best thing to do is keep buying the tickets & merchandise rather than constantly looking for the "bad news" and spinning it further out of proportion on the internet.

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Quote: Theboyem "Did you see the word correct as well or was it selective vision?

A £1.2 million first year loss, three winding up orders and a double figure amount of ccj's in the last 12 months tells everyone something is wrong somewhere. And the other stories that are going round from well connected people are reason to be worried. Its not about points scoring, its not about gloating, its about wanting to know what the hell is going on with OUR club AGAIN.'"


It ceased to be our club in 1983 when the club became a company and not a members club.

It ceased to even have shareholders unto whom the board were answerable in 2010.

What don't you get?

Despite your pomposity it is not our or as you probably see it your club anymore.

You are a paying customer nothing more with a product you can either buy or not as you see fit.

RL is about money now and you don't I assume have any to invest so shut up moaning. This is the modern game full of sharp suits and big money, it's exactly what people on these forums have been greedily demanding for years including us.

Be careful what you wish for as we the club supporters and the game as a whole might get what it deserves.

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Quote: RDM "]Like it or not, this is not "OUR" club as the fans voted with their closed wallets when Ted asked for the bailout ahead of going into Administration. The club is a PRIVATE company who we can choose to buy tickets & merchandise from or not.

I'm sure it's not slipped anyone's attention that the whole country has been facing financial difficulties over the last few years, so is it really that surprising that one of the lesser teams (let's face it - that's what we have been in recent years) in the top flight of what is (at best) the fourth most popular sport in the country has had some financial difficulties of its own over the same period?

Of course we'd all like to know the TRUE details about the day-to-day business at Belle Vue, but none of us (except Daddycool So it's together when it suits then? Lets hope everyone still buys their 'memberships' then.

As for your second point, bad management would kill a club in any econonmic situation.

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Quote: vastman "It ceased to be our club in 1983 when the club became a company and not a members club.

It ceased to even have shareholders unto whom the board were answerable in 2010.

What don't you get?

Despite your pomposity it is not our or as you probably see it your club anymore.

You are a paying customer nothing more with a product you can either buy or not as you see fit.

RL is about money now and you don't I assume have any to invest so shut up moaning. This is the modern game full of sharp suits and big money, it's exactly what people on these forums have been greedily demanding for years including us.

Be careful what you wish for as we the club supporters and the game as a whole might get what it deserves.'"

Vastman accusing someone of pomposity. Oh the irony.

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Quote: Theboyem "Vastman accusing someone of pomposity. Oh the irony.'"


True.

As has been said before, the owner of the club is only ever the custodian of the club, and of the club's history. You can never own that, only write it. The club will always belong to the fans. If they leave, the club is nothing.

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Quote: RebelRebel "True.

As has been said before, the owner of the club is only ever the custodian of the club, and of the club's history. You can never own that, only write it. The club will always belong to the fans. If they leave, the club is nothing.'"

Exactly.

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Quote: RebelRebel "True.

As has been said before, the owner of the club is only ever the custodian of the club, and of the club's history. You can never own that, only write it. The club will always belong to the fans. If they leave, the club is nothing.'"


That is pure fantasy - morally you are correct - in reality that dream died years ago. AS they say wake up and smell the coffee icon_sad.gif

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What I find so sad about this whole episode is that I genuinely believe that all who post on here and support this Club are genuine fans and we all want the same thing - a successful and sustainable Wakefield Trinity - but all we seem to do on here is fall out.

People have the democratic right to question the Club but you have to ask yourselves what is being gained by asking all these questions, what difference in a positive way is it going to make.

I'm not privy to the finances of the Club and I have no doubt that we are are experiencing financial difficulties but I would suspect that we are not on our own. The problem seems that our own fans go trawling the London Gazette for WUP's and CCJ's then report them for all to see on this Forum. I wonder if fans of other Clubs do this ?

The rumours posted on here may be true, we may be getting a feeling of Deja Vu and heading the same way as 3 years ago but what does anyone think we can do about it - the answer is nothing. We do not own the Club, we do not own shares. We may think we are stakeholders but we are just paying customers who pay to see a product and we have a choice as to whether we wish to do so or not.

We can question all we want but the Club has no obligation to answer and even if it did and gave us all answers that we did not want to hear what good is that going to do.

We have re-signed Danny Kirmond and Paul Sykes. Chris Tuscon is joining us. I believe we are in talks with Ali and Lee Smith and I've heard that the latter has re-signed. I've been told that Tim Smith and Kyle Amor are NOT for sale - that does not seem to spell the end of the Club to me.

The Club may be in a sticky financial situation and experiencing cash flow problems and I guess we have 2 choices:

1. We can continue to moan about things, post rumours or even facts of a negative nature and wait to go the same way as we did 2 years or so ago but this time no one might come forward and it will be the end of Wakefield Trinity OR

2. We can get behind the Club, buy memberships, merchandise etc. and stick together and support the Club and we may just come out of this stronger.

The choice is yours but I know what I will be doing.

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Quote: Theboyem "Vastman accusing someone of pomposity. Oh the irony.'"


There is no irony old boy. We have to read your umpteen opinionated and self righteous daily posts so man up and take one in return.

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Quote: vastman "There is no irony old boy. We have to read your umpteen opinionated and self righteous daily posts so man up and take one in return.'"

Bless.

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Quote: vastman "That is pure fantasy - morally you are correct - in reality that dream died years ago. AS they say wake up and smell the coffee
I'm smelling it, and it's fact. This aint no Monaco. Whatever we dream for this club will only be done on the back of the fans, regardless of who owns it. Ownership is temporary, go ask Sir Rodderz.

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