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There must be something in it for local businesses because even with all the pubs shutting around the country, a brand newly built one has popped up right outside the place, Ruddy Duck it's called and before that The Warfedale across the river from it opened up just because the Museum was getting built.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "There must be something in it for local businesses because even with all the pubs shutting around the country, a brand newly built one has popped up right outside the place, Ruddy Duck it's called and before that The Warfedale across the river from it opened up just because the Museum was getting built.'"

can you remember the pub that got knocked years ago where the Ruddy Duck is now

think it was called the ship

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Quote: Shifty Cat "There must be something in it for local businesses because even with all the pubs shutting around the country, a brand newly built one has popped up right outside the place, Ruddy Duck it's called and before that The Warfedale across the river from it opened up just because the Museum was getting built.'"

can you remember the pub that got knocked years ago where the Ruddy Duck is now

think it was called the ship

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Quote: bren2k "I'm not sure of the economic value in £ notes - I'm just going by the figures I've seen in various media sources, suggesting that in the first year of opening, it attracted 1/2 million visitors and won a series of prestigious awards; that's footfall, with money attached, coming into the City - that has to be of value?

I'm with you on the fact that Wakefield City Centre is changing - it's clear that The Ridings has taken a hit since Trinity Walk opened but I strongly believe that's just a levelling out process; the last I saw, they were at 95% occupancy and I'm pretty sure that Monkey, a long established Wakefield business, have just moved in?

There's no doubt that times are tough in the retail sector - I would've thought therefore that an attraction like The Hepworth would have been welcomed by most retailers?'"

But isn't a "boost to the local economy" about creating increased business and therefore bringing more pound notes into the area? The various figures suggesting how many have visited the gallery don't inform you how much in pound notes it's worth to the local economy because the council don't have a clue, but most businesses will tell you it's been worth nothing because most are struggling to survive.
There is a lot more to Wakefield than the ridings and trinity walk, and the rest of town is near derelict as a shopping centre because the council have put everything they've got into Trinity walk at the cost of all the small businesses in the rest of town.
Most business owners that I've spoken to are indifferent to the Hepworth except to be annoyed at the council's constant claims that it is helping them to grow when most of them are struggling to survive.

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I'll wager (not much) that not one visitor from out of town who entered the Gallery spent 1p in the place were Catnap works, or the shops either side of it.

Like Shifty says we have a new pub but thats about it imo.

It may raise the profile Wakefield but it adds nothing to the ailing town centre, i did visit when it first opened and i doubt i'll ever set foot in it again.

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Quote: snowie "can you remember the pub that got knocked years ago where the Ruddy Duck is now

think it was called the ship'"


Bit before my time mate but funnily enough someone posted an old home video from around 1974 of a car trip around Wakey, that went past that old pub and I was asking my mother about it and I think she said it was called the Ship.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "There must be something in it for local businesses because even with all the pubs shutting around the country, a brand newly built one has popped up right outside the place, Ruddy Duck it's called and before that The Warfedale across the river from it opened up just because the Museum was getting built.'"

Was the warfedale the old Jolly sailor?

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Quote: snowie "can you remember the pub that got knocked years ago where the Ruddy Duck is now

think it was called the ship

I think that's right with the Ship. There was also the White Bear inthe middle of the junction of Doncaster and Barnsley Roads.

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I haven't a clue how much difference one place like that will have on a city as a whole and it'd be very hard to put a monetary figure on the amount of people that visit it from out of the area, then maybe gone on into town for a meal, or to do a bit of shopping, no doubt quite a few will do that but not enough to make a huge impact.

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Quote: Catnap "Was the warfedale the old Jolly sailor?'"


Sure was, nice little pub now.

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Quote: wakeytrin "I think that's right with the Ship. There was also the White Bear inthe middle of the junction of Doncaster and Barnsley Roads.'"


There used to be a couple more in the same area, one where Halfords is and another where Dixon Hall is, literally 4 pubs in spiting distance, those were the days eh icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Shifty Cat "Sure was, nice little pub now.'"

So it hasn't just been built because of the Hepworth then? it was the Warfedale a long time before the Hepworth was finished and possibly before building commenced, I know because we used to supply it with meat for the meals when it first opened, and then they dropped us for microwave meals because they couldn't get enough trade to make propper meals viable.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "There used to be a couple more in the same area, one where Halfords is and another where Dixon Hall is, literally 4 pubs in spiting distance, those were the days eh The one where Halfords is was called The Bridge. A bloke called Tiger kept it in the seventies and he would serve anyone. Had my first pint in there when i was thirteen! icon_biggrin.gifRUNK: icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Catnap "So it hasn't just been built because of the Hepworth then? it was the Warfedale a long time before the Hepworth was finished and possibly before building commenced, I know because we used to supply it with meat for the meals when it first opened, and then they dropped us for microwave meals because they couldn't get enough trade to make propper meals viable.'"


Eh? I said the new pub is called the Ruddy Duck and is a new build on the opposite side of the canal to where Calderfords used to be. The Warfedale, like you asked me before is the old Jolly Sailor & re-opened up not long after they found out the museum was going to be built there, ie that was the reason they purchased it and opened it.

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This location makes me nervous (sorry but it does) surely there is somewhere nearer the .
I mean come on there is loads of derelict land in Wakefield it's not a full employment situation out there.
Lack of a train station upsets me too.
Am i the only one?
Onward and upwards though i hope/pray.
I'll be there even if we move to the end of the earth e.g Glasshoughton, so it won't put me off nor i guess most of you lot.

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Quote: dull nickname "This location makes me nervous (sorry but it does) surely there is somewhere nearer the Centre.
I mean come on there is loads of derelict land in Wakefield it's not a full employment situation out there.
Lack of a train station upsets me too.
Am i the only one?
Onward and upwards though i hope/pray.
I'll be there even if we move to the end of the earth e.g Glasshoughton, so it won't put me off nor i guess most of you lot.'"



Of course there's land closer to the city but any land big enough for a stadium is going to cost a premium and also who's going to pay for this land and then build this stadium for us, I don't know many people with a spare 15million. Surely you understand the mechanics behind us being able to move to a new stadium.

And to answer you're question, no it doesn't make me nervous at all, as long as they'll be well organised public transport to the ground, which there will be it will be great. If it was the 50's where people walked to the ground from the town and people relied on trains to get to games I'd agree with you but it isn't. It's only about 30 minutes walk from town anyway, done it many a time.

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