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| If there is one team I want to finish above this year it's Hull, just to shut these Agar hating Hull fans up! If they fail to finish above last seasons position who will they point the finger at then?
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "Agar was another yes man for kath,nothing more!! '"
Sorry for barging in but I have just noticed this.( I come in peace )
I fail to see how Hull fans can argue in 2 directions.Either Kath Hetherington ordered Richard Agar to play particular players as mentioned on the previous page OR he is a yes man ? Make up your mind.( Not dissimilar to the allegations of goings-on at Barrow over recent seasons )
I may have missed this since the news was made public BUT,was the chief exec.Rule or the conditioner ever suspended by Hull ? Or,despite the 'state of mind' campaign - was a player left to hang out to dry on his own when clearly the deliberate cover up is the more serious matter ?
If so it is pretty poor from the previous regime and then for the Hull fans to worship Pearson it reflects badly on him that he bought/took over a club and failed to take measures to safeguard a player - surely part of the transaction as he certainly didn't purchase the stadium as part of the deal.
When did Pearson obtain the facts and why,if he knew the facts,allow Rule to resign without any action being taken against him - he was an employee for however long the length of time between the Pearson takeover and the resignation.
At what point did the conditioner just walk away ?
It seems to have been very poorly handled.
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "You replied directly to my post and had somehow misconstrued what I'd said so I corrected you!'"
I replied to the subject you posted on (Kath Hetherington) and didn't misconstrue what you said at all, I've also read the article and didn't need any correction from you. My comment was make on the subject of the Chairperson of Hull FC about whom you were referring to, re: the article.
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| Quote: SCR-SeaDiver "Sorry for barging in but I have just noticed this.( I come in peace )
I fail to see how Hull fans can argue in 2 directions.Either Kath Hetherington ordered Richard Agar to play particular players as mentioned on the previous page OR he is a yes man ? Make up your mind.( Not dissimilar to the allegations of goings-on at Barrow over recent seasons )'"
Agree, what is it then, either Kath ran the show and Agar was just a yes man, or Agar ran the show and the mistakes made were on his own terms because if it's the first I fail to see where all the Agar bashing comes from. If Kath wasn't allowing Agar full control of the team like the Hull fans keep saying , the amount of hate this guy gets is totally unjustified imo.
I also agree with Deehell, a part from Cas if there's one team I want to smash this year it is now Hull, never was particularly bothered about them before but now, it's different.
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| Quote: Shifty Cat "Agree, what is it then, either Kath ran the show and Agar was just a yes man, or Agar ran the show and the mistakes made were on his own terms because if it's the first I fail to see where all the Agar bashing comes from. If Kath wasn't allowing Agar full control of the team like the Hull fans keep saying , the [iamount of hate this guy gets is totally unjustified imo.[/i
I also agree with Deehell, a part from Cas if there's one team I want to smash this year it is now Hull, never was particularly bothered about them before but now, it's different.'"
In november we had a fans forum,which was attended by Gentle,McCrae and Pearson.Us fans were more than shocked to hear Pearson publicly state that along with Kath,Agar was instrumental in leeds signing Luke Briscoe from ourselves.Not very professional of a head coach to push one of his young players in the direction of one of our main rivals is it? I'm quite certain that if this was you're club you would be up in arms wanting to know why,and also i don't think Glover would be happy either! These revelations from our new owner came out after he had signed a contract at wakefield.I wonder how Glover felt after finding out? He obviously wouldn't say things publicly,but i reckon after that and now the drugs fiasco,he must have twitchy feet? Time will tell if Kath and Agar are to be questioned by the rfl over the Gleeson affair?
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "In november we had a fans forum,which was attended by Gentle,McCrae and Pearson.Us fans were more than shocked to hear Pearson publicly state that along with Kath,Agar was instrumental in leeds signing Luke Briscoe from ourselves.Not very professional of a head coach to push one of his young players in the direction of one of our main rivals is it? I'm quite certain that if this was you're club you would be up in arms wanting to know why,and also i don't think Glover would be happy either! These revelations from our new owner came out after he had signed a contract at wakefield.I wonder how Glover felt after finding out? He obviously wouldn't say things publicly,but i reckon after that and now the drugs fiasco,he must have twitchy feet? Time will tell if Kath and Agar are to be questioned by the rfl over the Gleeson affair?'"
Well Pearson would say that wouldn't he? He's hardly going to point the finger at anyone thats still at the club. From what I hear Agar was a victim off events at Hull. No doubt like all blinkered fans you’ll just believe what you want to believe.
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| Quote: deeHell "Well Pearson would say that wouldn't he? He's hardly going to point the finger at anyone thats still at the club. From what I hear Agar was a victim off events at Hull. No doubt like all blinkered fans you’ll just believe what you want to believe.'"
He said he had the phone records/recordings to prove it.We hull fans are happy to have a genuine owner in Pearson after these years of kath and her son-in-law,and his honesty in berating kath and her dishonesty.look back on our board and see the amount of ''agar out'' threads and you will realise we have wanted rid of you're new head coach since 2009!! Hardly sourgrapes.
I do believe the forum was recorded and is on our official website to listen to what Pearson had to say about Kath and Agar.
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| Maybe Agar was giving a young kid good advice, to get out of a badly-run club? He was probably planning the same exit himself.
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "He said he had the phone records/recordings to prove it.We hull fans are happy to have a genuine owner in Pearson after these years of kath and her son-in-law,and his honesty in berating kath and her dishonesty.look back on our board and see the amount of ''agar out'' threads and you will realise we have wanted rid of you're new head coach since 2009!! Hardly sourgrapes.
I do believe the forum was recorded and is on our official website to listen to what Pearson had to say about Kath and Agar.'"
I'd have thought it was a bit soon to say what kind of owner you have yet. If this guy doesn't achieve success that the fans demand, along with the newly appointed coach, the fans will quickly turn.
Seems to have got the Hull fans on side fairly easily by slagging off the last regime and owner.
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "Not very professional of a head coach to push one of his young players in the direction of one of our main rivals is it?'"
Aside from all the other drivel you post, are you seriously suggesting that Leeds are one of your main rivals?
Delusions of grandeur over 'Ull way, without a doubt.
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "In november we had a fans forum,which was attended by Gentle,McCrae and Pearson.Us fans were more than shocked to hear Pearson publicly state that along with Kath,Agar was instrumental in leeds signing Luke Briscoe from ourselves.Not very professional of a head coach to push one of his young players in the direction of one of our main rivals is it? I'm quite certain that if this was you're club you would be up in arms wanting to know why,and also i don't think Glover would be happy either! These revelations from our new owner came out after he had signed a contract at wakefield.I wonder how Glover felt after finding out? He obviously wouldn't say things publicly,but i reckon after that and now the drugs fiasco,he must have twitchy feet? Time will tell if Kath and Agar are to be questioned by the rfl over the Gleeson affair?'"
Dearie me
Lets see what happens on the pitch under your new regime so far your not pulling up any trees I can see in signings etc.
Regardless of who is to blame Hull are certainly in the limelight for all the wrong reasons at the moment we will see how the new owner etc handles the situation, I have to say your coach and bomber dont inspire me wuth confidence and as for pearson we will se seems the deal but lets wait and see how it pans out.
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "We hull fans are happy to have a genuine owner in Pearson after these years of kath .'"
Is this the same genuine owner who,despite newspaper reports,rumour and speculation about Richard Agar going to Wakefield Trinity Wildcats,gave a lengthy denial ?
Is your criticism of Kath the same Kath who was with Shaun McRae at Gateshead Thunder before Hull took the club over ? Did she learn to select a side while McRae was the head coach at both clubs ?
Did Kath recommend Mcrae to Pearson or did he just pick him from a hat,bearing in mind he was initially 'on the sick' at Salford ?
PS - Where was the bugging device positioned for you to hear how Kath ordered Richard Agar to select a certain player ? Alternatively,did you secrete your five bellies in the boardroom or elsewhere ;there could be even more juicy rumours from you ? Alas,none of them anywhere near believable.
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| Quote: SCR-SeaDiver "Is this the same genuine owner who,despite newspaper reports,rumour and speculation about Richard Agar going to Wakefield Trinity Wildcats,gave a lengthy denial ?
Is your criticism of Kath the same Kath who was with Shaun McRae at Gateshead Thunder before Hull took the club over ? Did she learn to select a side while McRae was the head coach at both clubs ?
Did Kath recommend Mcrae to Pearson or did he just pick him from a hat,bearing in mind he was initially 'on the sick' at Salford ?
PS - Where was the bugging device positioned for you to hear how Kath ordered Richard Agar to select a certain player ? Alternatively,did you secrete your five bellies in the boardroom or elsewhere ;there could be even more juicy rumours from you ? Alas,none of them anywhere near believable.'"
McCrae left hull at a time when he didn't really want to but felt he had no choice.Certainly happy to return once kath left
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| Quote: Shifty Cat "I'd have thought it was a bit soon to say what kind of owner you have yet. If this guy doesn't achieve success that the fans demand, along with the newly appointed coach, the fans will quickly turn.
Seems to have got the Hull fans on side fairly easily by slagging off the last regime and owner.
The same Pearson that took hull city from liquidation to the championship,from boothferry park to the kc stadium,all within a budget and slim timescale.The same pearson who was asked to return after city got into financial trouble to sort out the mess.The same man who has been vital in terms of sport in hull more than 10 years
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