I would say you are getting boring with this one but that happened long ago.

Another ludicrous sack the coach thread - great.

Again I don't see how anyone can realistically expect a team to lose its best forward, star creative player and have another important signing banned, to just carry on the form that they started with.

Yes we lack creativity, yes a lot of the signings look suspect, but we are a team in turmoil. We'll have spent all pre season working on attacking moves based on Broughs kicking game and Troncs hard running and offloading game. Now both unavailable to us through no real fault of Kear. If a player turns down the best offer you can make and makes it clear he wants out, forcing him to play does no one any favours.

Tactically, we dominated the game last night - and yes it is tedious, but until we can get some decent runs and smart set plays implemented then it might be our lot for the time being. Kear just needs time to sort it out, its a right mess at the minute but should have faith in the man who has brought us so far forward in the last few years.

The "oh yeah but thats all in the past" brigade - what a load of crap! Just happy clappy supporters who are all fine when the team are doing well, then as soon as we have a bad run then start getting on the coach/players backs. Just give the man a chance to sort it, if we get to the end of the season and we are still doing 4 drives and a kick THEN you can call for his head. Just have a little faith.

Thats where i would disagree -- the form is actually the same.Apart from the Leeds game and HKR second half,i think we have been pretty poor on the pitch.
Ground out some wins against some poor/injury ravaged teams earlier in the season -- but the performances were none the less pretty average.

We are absolute turd at the moment. The fact that we couldn't beat the worst Hull side I've seen in a long time is worrying. Yet again we've built a decent side and then seen it ripped apart. As people say we need answers as to where the money from these players has gone/is going to be spent. We have been in much worse situations but never has the morale of supporters been so low if we are going to continue to sell/release our best players and serve up the crap that we have been then those who have supported the club through thick and thin deserve answers.

I think the style of Rugby right now is a tactical decision to the recent upheavels, keep it tight, compress the middle, kick, try and force an error - because simply we have to go into consolidation while we do a pre-season's work mid-season.

Take the Jeffrie situation now - great player while as a 6 runner off the ruck, play second fiddle to Brough's marshalling and not having to guide the team around the park - but now do you play him 7 again, put the ball in his hands tactically and essentially get the player we booed out of the club a couple of season ago.

Likewise the centre Millard, seems his one asset was to catch the high ball - without a half decent kicker we're now stuck with a powder-puff one trick pony centre.

If kear goes it will be a downhill spiral to nothing IMO.

The fact of the matter is, we did our preseason assuming that Brough was our main playmaker and that Newton and Tronc were 2 key men in the pack. All 3 have gone, meaning that we have to start from scratch with different players in key positions.
In addition, we already had a high turnover of players at the end of last season and we are pretty much having to gel a new team together. Since the season bagan we have brought in Cooke, Kirmond, Gledhill etc, none of which were involved in the preseason and they therefore have to get used to our systems.

It will take time for JK and the team to figure out the right formula for the rest of the season and to incorporte the new players and their styles of play. I don't think any coach would have done any better when you consider all of the changes we have had.
I think that they will get there in the end, but it may take a few more games yet!

Sack Kear and the board and all the players, sorted.


Put the teddies back in the cot and do what fans do, SUPPORT the players (not Latu ) and coaching staff, Give Kear the RESPECT HE'S EARNED and give the bloke a chance to turn things around.

Its tough going for all of us and i'm not happy with some of the players/signings/tatics but WE ALL KNOW BEST DON'T WE.

to be fair to kear, he has lost a lot of his key players and therefore attacking options,

but.

he has signed almost all the current squad and should be able to work with them.

they competed with hull and dominated the game for long periods, without ever really looking like scoring. it looks to me like everything we do on the field is very ad-lib.

no offloads because there was no one to offload to!
no runners apart from the ball receiver(makes defending very easy)
no recognisable set pieces(after how many years of kear)
very poor kicking game and a lazy chase.

if we need players like DB because they think on their feet, then what exactly is happening on the training field?

I agree with BIGAL, we have to give Kear time to turn things around it was not long ago he was the messiah and could not do anything wrong. I like the bloke, he talks alot of sense when you hear and see him and you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, however i've said this since the start when he first came to the club, Kear can only take teams to a certain level and can not go beyond that, he lost the dressing rrom at Hull and maybe he has reached that level with us...we will have to wait and see.

I saw effort and commitment against Hull. We were the dominant side in the game, in terms of possession and territory. We just lacked the final cutting edge near their line, albeit too often. JD summed it up best, that we were just too edgy, and had it not been for Cooke giving Whiting a big gap to run into, we might well have taken the game. I'm nervous about the Rhinos backlash next week, particularly as it is revenge time for them, but we are still in the mix at the half-way point. We were world-beaters a month ago. Now it's sack the coach. Barmy.

Tactics gave us plenty of field position and sufficient possession to win the game easily. Individual errors resulted in us not taking the opportunity.

Players at fault NOT coach.

I think that's what JK will be telling them at the start of training next week,they played better than they have for a few weeks and there was plenty of positives to take from the game.The forwards were gaining some good yard each drive, getting Trinity into good areas of the pitch where we should of racked the points up.We controlled practically all the possession and to be honest we should have been 20 points up at half time.If the players were playing confidently we should have beat Hull by 30 points and that was using those same tactics that we are all complaining about,all it would of taken is a few kicks and final passes being in the right places.
I think when your in a poor run of form your not going to be playing entertaining rugby,you just have to get back to winning and then the confidence and decent rugby comes off the back of that and I think that is what JK is trying to do.
The team aren't playing with any freedom or expressing themselves and imo that is just down to them feeling the pressure of losing,key players going and their confidence has all but gone.Even with the players we've got once their confidence returns we will be back beating teams and playing some decent stuff again.

As far as I can see he's the only one with any credibility in the boardroom!!!