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| Quote: cats mad "so mr chapster can i have them phone numbers'"
Give him the numbers for God sake - if he's reduced to hanging around the bloke's sauna for his kicks, he needs them more than you
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| Quote: RebelRebel "Give him the numbers for God sake - if he's reduced to hanging around the bloke's sauna for his kicks, he needs them more than you'"
its mixed didnt the fact that mr brough partner was in there give it away
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| Quote: Haywire "No, of course not. But you could check this:
No ASDA? Whats that all about?
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| Quote: Haywire "No, of course not. But you could check this:
Again, thanks for the links, but they really do have bugger all to do with proving the case in point. The club has rules regarding internal discpline, the rules have in this case been broken, and appropriate action taken. What more do you want? You won't be paying to watch either of the culprits at the weekend, so your ethical conscience is clear. Likewise, once they've served their punishment, you can watch them again and your ethical conscience can remain clear. Problem solved!
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| Quote: RebelRebel "Again, thanks for the links, but they really do have bugger all to do with proving the case in point. The club has rules regarding internal discpline, the rules have in this case been broken, and appropriate action taken. What more do you want? You won't be paying to watch either of the culprits at the weekend, so your ethical conscience is clear. Likewise, once they've served their punishment, you can watch them again and your ethical conscience can remain clear. Problem solved!'"
They have everything to do with the point. You are not interested in what they have done? You dont think the fans have a right to know to make an informed choice? Exagerate to make a point, a little lad may want SCULTHORPE 8 on the back of his shirt, his dad might not want it depending on what they have done- I think its a fair enough request to know what these guys have been disciplinned for. They are roll models and kids (and adults) up and down the County look to them for inspiration.
I would agree if it was a petty infringement that had little or no consequence, but seen as the club have made a statement its a fair assumption that their is more to it - or else why not just keep it in house and under wraps and release to the press they are injured for the weekend?
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| Quote: Haywire "They have everything to do with the point. You are not interested in what they have done? You dont think the fans have a right to know to make an informed choice? Exagerate to make a point, a little lad may want SCULTHORPE 8 on the back of his shirt - I think its a fair enough request to know what these guys have been disciplinned for. They are roll models and kids (and adults) up and down the County look to them for inspiration.
I would agree if it was a petty infringement that had little or no consequence, but seen as the club have made a statement its a fair assumption that their is more to it - or else why not just keep it in house and under wraps and release to the press they are injured for the weekend?'"
scully??
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| Quote: Haywire "I would agree if it was a petty infringement that had little or no consequence, but seen as the club have made a statement its a fair assumption that their is more to it - or else why not just keep it in house and under wraps and release to the press they are injured for the weekend?'"
That is precisely the point - why not do that? I don't know why they chose to go public with a statement, but if the incident was not a matter for public concern, then it was clearly a mistake, IMO. A well-meaning one, perhaps, but a mistake nonetheless.
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| Quote: cats mad "its mixed didnt the fact that mr brough partner was in there give it away'"
not in these enlightened times!
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| Quote: RebelRebel "That is precisely the point - why not do that? I don't know why they chose to go public with a statement, but if the incident was not a matter for public concern, then it was clearly a mistake, IMO. A well-meaning one, perhaps, but a mistake nonetheless.'"
OK, so we agree on the point - if its a petty matter it should be kept in house and dealt with inernally so the Club appear to have made an error of judgement. But at this stage we don't know if it is a petty matter (or at least I dont, you may know the whole story but only know what's been officially released) if it isn't a petty matter and is something more sinister do you beleive the fans should told the specifics or not?
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| Quote: chapster "
scully??'"
Sorry Chapster but Scully does a lot to bring awareness about Diabetes to the kids and is an inspiration to a lot of people affected youg and old in reaching their own goals,not sure if you were joking but hey cut the lad some slack it's all speculation at the mo'
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| Quote: RebelRebel "Disagree with you there. A breach of club discipline has to do with the club, not us. As PB and TRB have stated, it should have been dealt with internally and kept that way, unless it's something that warrants public comment, which doesn't seem to be the case. The statement has caused more damage than good, even if it was made with the right intentions.'" Have you ever heard the saying the customer is always right, We the fans are the customers of the club we pay to watch them play whether by paying at the gate or by purchasing a season ticket.
When we turn up for a game we want to see the best team possible play thats what we pay for, Now then we find that two of our senior players have breached club policy and have been banned from the club for a week,
So who is beeing punished the fans who pay there wages or even ther team mates who most probably will have to play with a weakened team facing yet what could be another defeat. So who is losing out, are the players having there wages docked i doubt it.Would it not be better for the Club to fine the players say a weeks wages and donate that money to a much needed charity, Then it is us the fans who dont end up being penalised.
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| Quote: Haywire "OK, so we agree on the point - if its a petty matter it should be kept in house and dealt with inernally so the Club appear to have made an error of judgement. But at this stage we don't know if it is a petty matter (or at least I dont, you may know the whole story but only know what's been officially released) if it isn't a petty matter and is something more sinister do you beleive the fans should told the specifics or not?'"
If it is more sinister you'll doubtless be told the specifics because it'll be in the public domain and reported by the press.
In most cases where such things have happened in the past, the press has got to the story first and the club concerned has tried to keep things under wraps. This is clearly not the case here.
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| Quote: CHESHIRE CAT 57 "Have you ever heard the saying the customer is always right, We the fans are the customers of the club we pay to watch them play whether by paying at the gate or by purchasing a season ticket.
When we turn up for a game we want to see the best team possible play thats what we pay for, Now then we find that two of our senior players have breached club policy and have been banned from the club for a week,
So who is beeing punished the fans who pay there wages or even ther team mates who most probably will have to play with a weakened team facing yet what could be another defeat. So who is losing out, are the players having there wages docked i doubt it.Would it not be better for the Club to fine the players say a weeks wages and donate that money to a much needed charity, Then it is us the fans who dont end up being penalised.'"
I would have thought and hoped that any suspension would also carry at least a partial loss of wages.
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| Quote: CHESHIRE CAT 57 "Have you ever heard the saying the customer is always right, We the fans are the customers of the club we pay to watch them play whether by paying at the gate or by purchasing a season ticket.
When we turn up for a game we want to see the best team possible play thats what we pay for, Now then we find that two of our senior players have breached club policy and have been banned from the club for a week,
So who is beeing punished the fans who pay there wages or even ther team mates who most probably will have to play with a weakened team facing yet what could be another defeat. So who is losing out, are the players having there wages docked i doubt it.Would it not be better for the Club to fine the players say a weeks wages and donate that money to a much needed charity, Then it is us the fans who dont end up being penalised.'"
Have you ever [inot [/igone to a particular game because a certain player is not playing? Do fans support the players or the team? As a season ticket holder, do you ask for your money back if a player is out injured for the season who you expected would play when you bought the ticket?
The squad is announced days in advance of the game, in this case, you know who [iwon't[/i be playing at an even earlier stage, so you, the customer, can decide whether you want to go or not.
I don't know who's being punished here - I guess it all depends on the performance on the day. If we win without them, will you feel cheated of your money? If we lose without them, will it be any different to the last 5 games?
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| I think that considering some players we have and have had in the past that it's a bit late to be bringing ethics into the equation.
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