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| Quote: gman93 "The stewards last night made supporters in the corner feel uneasy with there unprofessional toleration toward the fans atleast where I was standing. 20 minutes in a young man threw a bit of fudge to a mate, missing him and hitting a steward in the back of the head (not hard and nothing malicious intended). I was then swarmed 5 minutes later by about 4 steward that then took me to the back and said that "one of the stewards has possitively identified you throwing stones and that hit him in the head".
I pleaded my inocence but he wasnt having it telling me they were to escort me out of the ground. They had words for bout 5 minutes and the lad that did the deed overherd and came forward telling them the story.
They then said that they were sorry, (unconvincingly) and told him he was going. He offerd to go appologise to the steward but they said there was no changing the desision from "head office" and no matter what he was going.
He had to take find his younger brother who was about ten and go.
The club need to sort these stewards out its disgraceful there throw out ask questions later atitude. I paid good money to get in that ground and im not standing for the disrespect given to me'"
Firstly I was impressed with the club employing new stewards, I believe its Showsec who do many events and are and were much more professional than the last outfit we had.
They have a job to do like ensuring people comply with the rules of entry to the ground.
Chucking fudge etc or throwing anything should not be tolerated and support the stewarding on this just like the stadium is no no smoking you wouldnt think so at times but hopefully showsec will get to grips with all the slack practice of the past.
Sorry mate but I have no sympathy with your gripe.
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| Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "Firstly I was impressed with the club employing new stewards, I believe its Showsec who do many events and are and were much more professional than the last outfit we had.
They have a job to do like ensuring people comply with the rules of entry to the ground.
Chucking fudge etc or throwing anything should not be tolerated and support the stewarding on this just like the stadium is no no smoking you wouldnt think so at times but hopefully showsec will get to grips with all the slack practice of the past.
Sorry mate but I have no sympathy with your gripe.'"
It may be the right desision to throw out the lad who did the throwing. But I give him credit for coming forward and admiting, hence saving me from an unjust expulsion from the ground. As I wrote earlier they said I was "possitively identified". How can this be if I never actually threw anything?
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| IMO the lads were not at all threatening and they were treated appaulingly by the stewards who should have applied more common sense to a bit of playful behaviour that went wrong.
If these lads are not what we want at BV - then we may as well pack up now!
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| Quote: gman93 "I gave my name and number to 1 of the suited stewards by the hospitality suite and they said they'd contact me. Wander if he does
Its your complaint, so its your responsibility to contact the club, not someone else's to contact you.
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| Quote: TRB "IMO the lads were not at all threatening and they were treated appaulingly by the stewards who should have applied more common sense to a bit of playful behaviour that went wrong.
If these lads are not what we want at BV - then we may as well pack up now!'"
Playful behaviours OK, but we can't tolerate people chucking stuff around. I got dirty looks a few years ago for telling kids to stop chucking sweets at the ref as he stood near the touchline for a kick - if one had hit him (Klein) we could easily have been kicked out of SL for an Opal Fruit!
Singing, chanting, jumping around - OK - in fact I'd like to see and hear a bit more of it, we could take a cue from the Wire fans last night. Throwing stuff, even playfully, should be met with zero tolerance.
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| The ticket stub says the throwing of any object in the ground is strictly forbidden, so they were just following the rules
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| hope you learn from this.
for me its a no no, what next plastic bottles
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| Throwing should not be tollerated so for me it sounds like the stewards did their job.
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| Daddy cool came past me before the game and threw at least 2/300 mini choc bars at the crowd, not one single steward tried to throw him out.
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| Quote: wakeyrule "Playful behaviours OK, but we can't tolerate people chucking stuff around. I got dirty looks a few years ago for telling kids to stop chucking sweets at the ref as he stood near the touchline for a kick - if one had hit him (Klein) we could easily have been kicked out of SL for an Opal Fruit!
Singing, chanting, jumping around - OK - in fact I'd like to see and hear a bit more of it, we could take a cue from the Wire fans last night. Throwing stuff, even playfully, should be met with zero tolerance.'"
well throwing stuff at refs is a diferent matter, like the time when Wally Lewis was sent off at Headingley and snowballs were thrown in the refs direction.
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| I think to be honest, there was some off the cuf, decision making by certain stewards at the game.
On our way into the game, a steward was trying to stop the Warrington drummer from taking his drum into the ground by basically trying to drag him back out through the turnstile , the drummer was having none of it. The steward claimed it was policy that "the drum was not allowed in the ground"?
This may well be the case I don't know, but personally I cannot see what harm a drum can do, if anything it adds to the atmosphere and certainly the Warrington fans seemed to enjoy it.
At the end of the game as we tried to pass from the western terrace to the bar we were stopped from passing as we were not allowed to go past the Sky equipment, however the stewards were allowing supporters back through the in the opposite direction. At that end of the western terrace stood the wire support accompanied by the drummer and the previously incensed steward, so why if it was policy was the drummer still there and why was the steward stood within 20ft of him.
As for the incident with the toffee missile, I saw a couple of youngsters being marched out through the donny rd gates one of the stewards doing the escorting was the previously mentioned steward.
I'm not saying this individual is wrong or out of order, but I think the stewarding in general may need looking at by the club.
If as mentioned by others, the benidorm flats bar was being used by away supporters, stewards are incriminating innocent supporters and perhaps making up their own rules, it would be naive at best of the club not to ask questions of the people involved.
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| Quote: djcool "The ticket stub says the throwing of any object in the ground is strictly forbidden, so they were just following the rules'"
And a simple explanation of that - an apology (as given) and a severe warning would have been more than appropriate.
I do not tolerate bad behaviour and have had run ins with previous stewards over the lack of action on occasion, but in this instance the judgement was way too heavy handed.
Just following the rules is an excuse often used by people who lack the skills to be able to make reasonable judgements - and stewards are some of the worst culprits, albeit they have a difficult job at times (although often they make it more difficult due to the afformentioned skills deficiencies)
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| Quote: TRB "And a simple explanation of that - an apology (as given) and a severe warning would have been more than appropriate.
I do not tolerate bad behaviour and have had run ins with previous stewards over the lack of action on occasion, but in this instance the judgement was way too heavy handed.
Just following the rules is an excuse often used by people who lack the skills to be able to make reasonable judgements - and stewards are some of the worst culprits, albeit they have a difficult job at times (although often they make it more difficult due to the afformentioned skills deficiencies)'"
Indeen the not letting the 30 or so Wakey fans walk from the end of the Wetern Terrace to the bar after the game was a classic example of this. We personally had walked through there prior to the game so was strange we could not then walk back the 20 feet instead of walking the whole way round the ground.
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| No RL club needs fans throwing bad fudge passes to mates. It's just not necessary. Eat the fudge yourself, or pass it accurately to your chum, in such a way that he can pass it on if he can put the chum outside him into space. Well done the stewards for clamping down on bad passing of fudge.
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| I know gates aren't where we would like them, but should we be encouraging fudge munchers?
If you must comsume confectionary mid game, what's wrong with a fishermans friend? or if you must a werthers original!
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