Unfortunately we dont have a JD or Betham type character like we did in 06. Imo along with the obvious other things, any form of leadership has been a serious problem for us this year.

Seems to me Scruton and Miller are taking on the leadership role now.
When we are under the cosh (or behind the posts) these two are barking out the orders (Moore too actually)
It's what we've needed all season.

A leaders been missing all season , I just don't see the right kind of character in the team at the moment to assume the role. Our total lack of forms provided the perfect opportunity for players to shrink in to the background , if we had a natural leader he would have shown his face well before now.

Think we have made a great start to the 8s
Results today just go to show one game at a time with preparation and game plan the order of the day.
Widnes found out today I would say, H K R great result the week before Wembley.
Bradford what a result, problems at Salford.
Halifax still capable of a shock result or two me thinks.
Leigh, well lets see.
Whats the table looking like

Not looking good for fax.

Not looking good for fax.

Half a team out against Widnes and we've come up trumps, seemingly unearthing a talent in Matty Marsh at scrum half. I'm just glad a week after Wembley for us, the Wakey game isn't as big as it once was, we could be even more dangerous against you lot.

Hmmmm wouldn't be too sure. If we can get 2 stone off Ali, dump Riley and find a stand in player to lake hooker, we may give you a decent run for your money.

Am I right in thinking that if a player is sin binned then he cannot be cited later as it is classed as having been dealt with by the ref at the time of the incident. Any refs (proper ones not terrace refs) know ??

I'm pretty certain they look at all incidents independently. No matter what the on field decision was.

Exactly !!!!! they are running the game. How long before every knock on , dodgy tackle, foot in touch etc etc is checked.
Because even when the ref calls an incident they go back and over rule him, its getting to be a farce.

In fact I will go one further. I will put money on this happening in the near future. A ref will give a try they will look at the incident and whilst the kicker is preparing for the conversion the try will be over ruled.

They can't rule over a forward pass or have things changed ??

The RFL will be that busy looking at Haggerty
1. The knee incident on smith
2. A challenge on Miller that had no impact on the kick but managed to fell Miller