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If the majority of this is true lets hope that the gamble AG may be taking works out how he wants it, as soon as Newmarket gets the go ahead the better.

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Quote: El Rey "No doubt at all its been hard to make ends meet and thats why fans like us spend what we can to help the club in our own small way, or at least untill we feel that "together we are stronger" does not ring true

Does someone want the explain to me why we signed Nick Fozzard and Mr T when we can't pay the bills, someone who's business minded maybe could explain because it makes no sense to me.'"


Not just fozzard and tt but the new lottery manager to run the 1873 even though we still have no idea if the money from the lottery scheme is being used for junior development because the club does not seem to want to tell us.

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Having read through this thread its hard to know if most of it is a load of rubbish or there should be genuine cause for concern. The supporters trust was set up to represent us at times like this and I would hope they would be meeting the club ASAP. Awkward questions need to be asked and hopefully answereed so people can get to the truth.

What we dont want is threads like this to run and run.

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Quote: jack in the box "Having read through this thread its hard to know if most of it is a load of rubbish or there should be genuine cause for concern. The supporters trust was set up to represent us at times like this and I would hope they would be meeting the club ASAP. Awkward questions need to be asked and hopefully answereed so people can get to the truth.

What we dont want is threads like this to run and run.'"

Very much so. Such a shame they don't have a seat on the board.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Very much so. Such a shame they don't have a seat on the board.'"


Indeed

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Quote: jack in the box "Having read through this thread its hard to know if most of it is a load of rubbish or there should be genuine cause for concern. The supporters trust was set up to represent us at times like this and I would hope they would be meeting the club ASAP. Awkward questions need to be asked and hopefully answereed so people can get to the truth.

What we dont want is threads like this to run and run.'"


Unfortunately as with the tax fiasco, I am not sure we can rely on getting a truthful answer

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Perhaps a fans forum could Sort this out?

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Quote: lad13 "Perhaps a fans forum could Sort this out?'"

The Supporters Trust were asking a few weeks ago what format/guests fans wanted for a supporters evening. Since then silence, so meeting organised or more information given.

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Quote: Slugger McBatt "But what are they actually doing wrong?

The club is not generating enough money to cover its liabilities, that seems clear, but does that mean it is being run badly? Didn't AG say that he wanted the club run as a going concern. If someone had evidence of money being wasted or people giving large salaries to family or whatever, or mortgaging the ground hoping to cash in when the new stadium is given the green light, then fine. If it is just cashflow, what can they do apart from increase season ticket prices? Or run a lottery.

Okay, the club isn't making enough money. That doesn't mean people are doing a bad job. It just means that the club doesn't make enough money.

AG presumably is waiting for Newmarket to kickstart everything, with lower outgoings maybe and bigger crowds, but we can't blame him for that. What he isn't obliged to do is keep pumping his own money in just to keep us afloat. He wants it to be a going concern. I like to think they are trying their best to get it there.'"

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Quote: JEAGFC "JE is a shareholder, albeit a small one but it probably makes it difficult to remove him. His track record is indeed poor.

Seems within the last few weeks a new co has been set up,"Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Ltd" with the same two owners, AG & JE.........makes you wonder what this is all about?'"


The more things change, the more things stay the same. Still got a culture of jobs for friends and family, still spending what we haven't got.

Of course, we can't compete without a sugar daddy, no-one but the very best run business in a larger area than us could do, but as long as everyone is aware of that, and we work within those parameters, it's fine. Not ideal, not perfect, but we haven't challenged the top table for decades, I doubt we'd get upset if that didn't change until the medium-long term.

Marketing only works with substance, "Together we are stronger" was always just words on a page.

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Quote: lad13 "Perhaps a fans forum could Sort this out?'"


They only seem to happen when everything is looking good and positive.

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Do we know the actual details of the sponsorship deal with Eric France? How much money were we owed from him? How long was it not getting paid for? This would have been factored in to the budget and could be responsible for a few of these rumors.

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Quote: 18th Man "Do we know the actual details of the sponsorship deal with Eric France? How much money were we owed from him? How long was it not getting paid for? This would have been factored in to the budget and could be responsible for a few of these rumors.'"

Good point, we need someone from the club to be honest with us, we do not want the dark days to return

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Quote: 18th Man "Do we know the actual details of the sponsorship deal with Eric France? How much money were we owed from him? How long was it not getting paid for? This would have been factored in to the budget and could be responsible for a few of these rumors.'"


But as has already been said, we knew about the shortfall before we hired fozzard, tt and the new lottery manager and offered contract extensions on more money to existing players. So whilst the shortfall in sponsorship has undoubtedly left a hole, the club seem to be making it larger which is rank bad management

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We really needed the lotto manager, cas have near on 3k members and we have 779 paid up members. That's one heck of a difference in income already.

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