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Wonder if the vaccine that seems to be on the horizon is a preventative vaccine or, the first step in mass control of the population ?

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Wonder if the vaccine that seems to be on the horizon is a preventative vaccine or, the first step in mass control of the population ?'"


Good question wrencat. eusa_clap.gif I suppose it depends what, if any, restrictions they put on anyone not taking the vaccine.
As a precursor the muzzles are already a control mechanism, or they would like them to be. See the sign on the front of Aviva buses as a glaring example.

By the way, looks like you have Billy B as a groupie,

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I’ve no problem with people choosing not to get the vaccine. It will almost certainly ensure they won’t be going on holiday abroad again though. Or indeed working abroad.

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Quote: Billy Butcher "I’ve no problem with people choosing not to get the vaccine. It will almost certainly ensure they won’t be going on holiday abroad again though. Or indeed working abroad.'"


But will it stop at "covid" related issues. Be careful what you wish for. Before you give our politicians this power I would certainly think it through very very carefully.
The politicians we have now are bad enough, but there is no telling what kind of people will be in power in the years to come.

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Politicians already have the power to stop you entering their country without the necessary jabs.

This is nothing new.

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Quote: Billy Butcher "Politicians already have the power to stop you entering their country without the necessary jabs.

This is nothing new.'"


Wrencat was asking about "mass control of the population", you were talking about traveling abroad. My apologies.

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Quote: Billy Butcher "I’ve no problem with people choosing not to get the vaccine. It will almost certainly ensure they won’t be going on holiday abroad again though. Or indeed working abroad.'"


Why?
For a start, there will be some that will be allergic to the vaccine - like they are to the flu jab for example - and wont be able to have it.

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Quote: Miro "Good question wrencat.
The "muzzles" as you so eloquently describe them are to try and help prevent the spread of the virus, not to control the population.
Who are "they" ?

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Quote: BarnsleyGull "Just for the record, there is no immunity from seasonal or any other flu.
Hence, why there's a vaccine and people unfortunately still die from it. That's why there are monthly/yearly figures regarding it's outbreak and mortality rate.'"


That is just an absolute lie, there has been an immunity to 'covid' or rather corona viruses and this is coming from the mouths of those who actually back the criminals in UK government.Millions of people don't get flu despite not having vaccines, and we know that vaccines for influenza are pretty much ineffective anyway, even the NHS website has to admit how rubbish they are despite defending them so much and ignoring the huge amount of harm vaccines do in many instances!
You people are anti science ffs!

People die due to their underlying health conditions for the most part, government and aided by ONS have manipulated deaths to show that SARS-COV-2 is a huge killer, when it isn't in anywhere near the numbers given. There's already evidence that tells us that immunity in people was already there!
"Most bizarrely of all, when researchers tested blood samples taken years before the pandemic started, they found T cells which were specifically tailored to detect proteins on the surface of Covid-19. This suggests that some people already had a pre-existing degree of resistance against the virus before it ever infected a human. And it appears to be surprisingly prevalent: 40-60% of unexposed individuals had these cells."

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Quote: 48756c6c20 524c4643 "That is just an absolute lie, there has been an immunity to 'covid' or rather corona viruses and this is coming from the mouths of those who actually back the criminals in UK government.Millions of people don't get flu despite not having vaccines, and we know that vaccines for influenza are pretty much ineffective anyway, even the NHS website has to admit how rubbish they are despite defending them so much and ignoring the huge amount of harm vaccines do in many instances!
You people are anti science ffs!

People die due to their underlying health conditions for the most part, government and aided by ONS have manipulated deaths to show that SARS-COV-2 is a huge killer, when it isn't in anywhere near the numbers given. There's already evidence that tells us that immunity in people was already there!
"Most bizarrely of all, when researchers tested blood samples taken years before the pandemic started, they found T cells which were specifically tailored to detect proteins on the surface of Covid-19. This suggests that some people already had a pre-existing degree of resistance against the virus before it ever infected a human. And it appears to be surprisingly prevalent

How can it be a lie when you have stated that???
People die from flu if they've had the flu jab or not - and not just those with "pre existing medical conditions."

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Quote: wrencat1873 "The "muzzles" as you so eloquently describe them are to try and help prevent the spread of the virus, not to control the population.
Who are "they" ?'"
If you cannot travel on a bus because of no mask then you are controled, your freedom of movement is under control.

I have observed in close up and at a distance the wearing of these filthy (after just ten minutes) masks and from what I see there is no way in this world they are controling the spread of a virus. Quite the opposite in fact. Just to see how people handle the things and handle everything else afterwards, and we are talking multi millions of them, people and masks, it's a joke to say they are helping in any way and it is time the government dropped the insistance of mask wearing anywhere.

But they won't, because like social distancing, this is simply a way to measure your obedience and complience.

If the Masks work - Why the six feet? If the Six Feet works – Why the Masks? If Both work – Why the Lockdown?

To have a mask full of bacteria, germs, viruses, spit, snot, stale expelled air from the lungs all this you breath back into the lungs there should have been a risk assement done not just for the wearing but the constant touching (yes you Mr Chester) the number of masks required per person per day, the safe disposal of millions of them.
I have not seen a risk assesement nor any way of safley disposing of them.
Can you show me one? Maybe I'm mistaken and there is one.

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Quote: 48756c6c20 524c4643 "That is just an absolute lie, there has been an immunity to 'covid' or rather corona viruses and this is coming from the mouths of those who actually back the criminals in UK government.Millions of people don't get flu despite not having vaccines, and we know that vaccines for influenza are pretty much ineffective anyway, even the NHS website has to admit how rubbish they are despite defending them so much and ignoring the huge amount of harm vaccines do in many instances!
You people are anti science ffs!

People die due to their underlying health conditions for the most part, government and aided by ONS have manipulated deaths to show that SARS-COV-2 is a huge killer, when it isn't in anywhere near the numbers given. There's already evidence that tells us that immunity in people was already there!
"Most bizarrely of all, when researchers tested blood samples taken years before the pandemic started, they found T cells which were specifically tailored to detect proteins on the surface of Covid-19. This suggests that some people already had a pre-existing degree of resistance against the virus before it ever infected a human. And it appears to be surprisingly prevalent


Just quoting random numbers with no evidence or personal qualifications as an expert is just blah, no matter how viamently you write it.

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Quote: Miro "If you cannot travel on a bus because of no mask then you are controled, your freedom of movement is under control.
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Correct

Same as.....
You can't drive without a seat belt
You can't ride a bike without a helmet
You can't drive over the speed limit
You can't drive while drunk or drugged
You can't ride a train without booking a ticket
I'm pretty sure you can't travel naked either but not sure about that one

How dare they control us in this way! Pretending to do it for our safety when they just want to restrict our movemt.

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Non of those measures are inhuman. Life devoid of facial expresions is inhuman and if anyone cannot see that then I fear they are bordering on the sociopathic.
We need to see smiles, frowns, anger, sadness, laughter and the rest. What is it they say? A smile is worth a thousand words (or maybe I just made that up) or "smile, and the whole world smiles with you." Or is that laugh? same thing
Yes, it may only be a limited amount of places (at the moment) but that's bad enough and so many people now so scared thanks to the media, that they wear them everywhere.
Soppy stuff maybe but that's humanity in a nutshell.

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Quote: PopTart "Just quoting random numbers with no evidence or personal qualifications as an expert is just blah, no matter how viamently you write it.'"


How is it Pop Tart that you only pull posters up for this when they oppose your views but not those posters who support your views? eusa_naughty.gif

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