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| Quote MOPSEY LIVES ON="MOPSEY LIVES ON"on current form the only two who would get bigger clubs are tupou and TJ and both would be great for other clubs providing they can stop fit, tanginoa would also probably get a bigger club if he can discover last seasons form. Arona, fafita, ashurst, lyne who are all done great for the club Imo would only be used as a stop gap somewhere, with the exception of lyne who’s 29 their all the wrong side of 30 and their best years are behind them. The youngsters need to improve and continue to improve something I haven’t seen in any player in 2 1/2 years with players either stagnating or going backwards. Chester may of only signed two players but he’s resigned nearly all the other players. Also let’s look at his disastrous signings, gigot, brough, tangata, lino. The whole team as completely stagnated and if your not going forwards your only going one way. As for arudel he’s a good honest pro who can read the game but he’s like TJ he spends hell of a lot of time not on the field.'"
Totally disagree. The poster you contradict is correct
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"Well, that did not take long. Two games in and already the flaming torches and pitchforks are out. this must be the record for the shortest time.
Gods sake grow up.'"
Come on....it is not just these 2 games is it? We know the pattern. It's depressingly predictable every match now. Since Kear left, our defence is abysmal. Our pack is too lightweight and leaves our halves compromised in every match
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| It’s not just two games it’s nearly two seasons and two games. We have basically the same squad and sadly the same coach. I would expect that by now Chester would have worked things out but once again evidence suggests not and he is still using the same excuses. He has never taken personal responsibility for how his team performs, but once again he doesn’t need to because he will always be backed by the board.
I would ask how many coaches would still be in situ with his record and the possibility of a contract extension. He has the closest thing to a job for life which is rare in any business but sport never.
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| Quote Egg Banjo="Egg Banjo"Last and Poching are championship level coaches who are working under the direction of a head coach who is bereft of ideas and has no clue on how to motivate his players.'"
I would beg to differ regarding Andy Last. When Radford was sacked last year, we were all screaming for an outsider to be brought into the club. The chairman thought otherwise and gave Andy a chance to show his credentials. He turned the team round and actually got us to the semi-finals of the playoffs. Chester I won't comment on as I've no idea what goes on with Wakey but I would say have some faith in Last and I'm sure you'll see some improvement.
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| Personally I’d give Rocky a run at hooker ,is it really that much different from a half back role nowadays ,he’s got the speed of thought and would certainly gee up things around the play the ball which at the moment is killing us ,as by the time the ball gets out to first receiver players are getting mullered .We’d certainly miss the defence of Crowther in the middle but I’m sure that would be offset by a much faster play the ball and dare I say it, a scoot from dummy half .This isn’t a dig at Crowther who I rate very highly ,just don’t think he is suited to the hooking role ,but hats off to him for his efforts.
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| We have got faith in Last and Poching ,and our on line defence and first half display have improved .The trouble is we have got a few player's that would go better in the championship.,and most of our decent players are are not as good as two year ago ,and big problems at 9.A lot of this is down to Me Chester so should imagine Last as not got the same input he had at Hull.
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| Quote charlie63wildcat="charlie63wildcat"Come on....it is not just these 2 games is it? We know the pattern. It's depressingly predictable every match now. Since Kear left, our defence is abysmal. Our pack is too lightweight and leaves our halves compromised in every match'"
I'm pleased someone has mentioned the defence. I've been banging on about it for months. It is a total shambles, just look at the number of tries we concede. I hope to goodness they are doing something on the training paddock to sort out this achilles heel of ours because so far I've seen little evidence it has improved bar the first half against Wigan.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"It's makes me laughing seeing so many people calling out the playing Crowther at Hooker decision. There were loads of people saying to do exactly that not long ago.
Crowther is clearly a 13 playing at 9.
But he brings defense so it's a stop gap.
If he played Harry Bowes you'd get the same people moaning he's killing him by playing him. Same as he killed Max by not playing him. Same as killing Annakin by not converting him to Hooker, same as killing Kershaw by playing him and then by not playing him.
At Wakefield you have to fix things a bit at a time. There isn't a Hooker out there in our price range that's a better option. It needs to happen for us to move forward. At the moment we are doing the best we can.
Would I play Josh Wood. Yes. Will he improve the speed of the play the ball more than Crowther, maybe but not a lot. Would we miss Crowther when he isn't on the field. Yes we would.'"
I’ve watched Wakey for a similar length of time to you pt so you are preaching to the converted
I certainly wasn’t one of the ones calling for crowther at hooker
Crowther isn’t clearly a 13 either
He’s a back row IMO
He’s not got the hands to be a ball handling LF bad he don’t believe he could become a third prop playing at 13, though he has put a lot of size on since last year
I wouldn’t rule that out at a later date
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I agree with all that.
Except the Brad Walker thing. That would just shift the issue.
We need a better Hooker.'"
I don’t completely agree with that
Brad walker in the bit I’ve seen of him obviously has some attacking flair
I think he’d be a good temp option at hooker and should be given a chance
I think he’d grab the chance with both hands
Personally I’d like to see Rocky given a chance to play there
I think he’s got the skill set to do a very good job at hooker
Plus we need to find Rocky a permanent position in the team if max is going to be our starting fb
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I've said for a while but slow ball from Hooker stunts our attack.
Defenses know they can be on us before the ball has moved past first receiver.
Getting Lino improves it but it has just highlighted the 9 issue even more while Wood isn't around - and it's still a problem when he plays too just not as much.'" so after all the pressure and moaning about needing an organising 7 and may I add to that new coaching staff which everyone continuously went on about we now need a number 9. I’m sure if everyone keeps going on enough then carter and Chester will be convinced to get one. We didn’t need a 7 we needed two or three grafters all forwards IMO and one of them an hooker. We didn’t need two assistant coaches just an head coach who’s going to hold his hand up and say I’m the boss I take responsibility and then change and do something about it.
An hookers job in attack is to look around and scan the field for opportunities and to decide when to run and not to run, to give quality ball off the floor at pace and neither crowther or wood can do this. If you ask both if they would rather play hooker or not play of course they will say yes but if it’s unnatural and they haven’t got the tools to do it then there’s not a lot we can do, Chester was an intelligent player if he can’t see it then he needs to look harder.
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| I thought that CC should be given another 5 or 6 games, the truth is he will probably be given to the end of the season and take the club in to next season. The environment at the club allows for Chester to carry on and unless we have a clear chance of relegation he will remain.
The club lacks ambition and as long as it can take around 3500 to 4000 fans along with it things will not change.
Its a catch 22 sort of situation lack of ambition v budget available and C C seems to fit in perfectly.
Its only 2 games in and things will improve (I hope) and see results improving.
Chester said we are aiming for a top 8 at the time that statement was disappointing, it now seems totally acceptable.
The last 2 seasons have been tough because of injuries and covid, and C C been cut some slack and quite rightly in my view, however nows the time to get the team back to winning ways but blaming his players in public ain't the way forward. Some players have improved while others need to find the form of a couple of seasons ago.
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| I go into every game expecting a loss these days. I am rarely surprised.
Something has to give, that 2nd half against Wigan was nothing short of pathetic.
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