Of course they won't need to be played, they may get an odd sniff but it's all about stepping up to a full time environment.

The post was tongue in cheek.

I don’t think he does that. How anyone would think that baffles me.

I’m just happy to see us developing players on a regular basis, some won’t make it but at least there in the frame.

I know and my post qas in regards it been on a topic where most are saying we need props thats all

Seem to remember Lee Crooks doing ok at the age of 17 and what about James Graham he'll of been about 17-18 yr old, drip feeding into games every now and again speeds up maturity you wouldn't want to break them but 20 mins at the right time is what's needed

Wouldn't deny that but wouldn’t want to put that level of expectation on them. Nearer to home I remember Feather and Mason breaking through as props very young. Do think that’s a lot rarer these days though.

Working out who’s going to make it at 17 to 19 age especially in the forwards is really hard to do, so many factors. I don’t envy the coaching staff that one but I’m really delighted to see we are pushing it.

All the same I doubt the club has any serious plans to use them this season. Aydin is next in line for the pack and he will do well to get a game, hopefully for his sake and ours).

Wigan seem to have a batch of very young aggressive Forwards ie Smithies, Partington ..... who are 19/20. If you’re ready you’re ready regardless of age. Listening to a Sean Long interview on rugby AM he said they have the same youth coaches at Wigan as when he first came through and they literally have them running through brick walls for the club

I think we are heading that way but it takes time.

I remember Applegarth as a player, he was a mediocre talent but his enthusiasm and effort were exceptional. He's the perfect youth Coach IMHO. His attitude is spot one in that he will instil a work ethic and he understands failure and that it can be overcome, he understands all players develop differently. Far too many youths coaches concentrate on the obvious talent at that ages group but that is often deceiving, you need a Coach who can spot ticker as well as quality or qualities yet to be developed and I think he does.

Lets put it this way, in the last six years we've not had too many failures and even those have gone on to do ok elsewhere, we have also had a few success stories sowe must be doing something right.